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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life ....so exactly what i was saying then? give Proctor a run?

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Canes4life ....so exactly what i was saying then? give Proctor a run?

    Yeah sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with you. Was more responding to those selecting Ioane. Don't see the point. Ioane will get another opportunity, likely against Argentina.

    Starting Proctor outside Jordie is also a no brainer considering their form in Super.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mikedogz said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    This game is being played at 2:30pm Saturday NZ time. Right when a lot of club finals are being played.

    Bummer.

    Needs better coordination

    we're paying a home game against Fiji in the US. The wants or needs of the NZ rugby public actually matter fuck all to the NZRU

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    @Kiwiwomble I don't disagree at all that Proctor deserves a chance, but as of right now i think at least one wing and the halfback need to change more, and would like to retain some combinations.
    Likewise in the forwards it would be nice to see the other props get a shot, but a very poor lineout and Taylor not going great make Aumua more of a priority.
    And I would like to see what both Blackadder and Sititi can offer, but preferably not both at the same time.
    It's a new team, new systems, and every game early on is an opportunity to build continuity - so once you've picked a side you don't want to make wholesale changes - which is also a reason I was disappointed with the conservative initial selections.

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    @mariner4life think that disconnect has been there for many years, made worse in the last decade or so.

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    Darry in for Patrick in the squad to rest Patricks body. Full squad travelled

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    Proctor and Clarke put up for the press, so assume that means they are starting.

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    I did hear that the team will still be named on Thu. They wouldn't want to break with tradition!

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mikedogz said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    This game is being played at 2:30pm Saturday NZ time. Right when a lot of club finals are being played.

    Bummer.

    Needs better coordination

    we're paying a home game against Fiji in the US. The wants or needs of the NZ rugby public actually matter fuck all to the NZRU

    I'm guessing this is to do with Silverlake's strategy for growing NZ Rugby and especially its revenue.

    If we could get 1/100th proportion of American kids wandering round in $55 All Black caps that cost $5 to make - as there are NZ kids wandering round in NBA caps - then probably there's $50 million bucks.

    These are made up numbers - but, there are 8 billion people wandering the planet and a good proportion of them would like to have a stylish black cap. NZ Rugby and Silverlake just need to work out how to make sure it has an AB logo on it.

    These sort of games are a start.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mikedogz said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    This game is being played at 2:30pm Saturday NZ time. Right when a lot of club finals are being played.

    Bummer.

    Needs better coordination

    we're paying a home game against Fiji in the US. The wants or needs of the NZ rugby public actually matter fuck all to the NZRU

    I'm guessing this is to do with Silverlake's strategy for growing NZ Rugby and especially its revenue.

    If we could get 1/100th proportion of American kids wandering round in $55 All Black caps that cost $5 to make - as there are NZ kids wandering round in NBA caps - then probably there's $50 million bucks.

    These are made up numbers - but, there are 8 billion people wandering the planet and a good proportion of them would like to have a stylish black cap. NZ Rugby and Silverlake just need to work out how to make sure it has an AB logo on it.

    These sort of games are a start.

    that made me a little sick

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mikedogz said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    This game is being played at 2:30pm Saturday NZ time. Right when a lot of club finals are being played.

    Bummer.

    Needs better coordination

    we're paying a home game against Fiji in the US. The wants or needs of the NZ rugby public actually matter fuck all to the NZRU

    I'm guessing this is to do with Silverlake's strategy for growing NZ Rugby and especially its revenue.

    If we could get 1/100th proportion of American kids wandering round in $55 All Black caps that cost $5 to make - as there are NZ kids wandering round in NBA caps - then probably there's $50 million bucks.

    These are made up numbers - but, there are 8 billion people wandering the planet and a good proportion of them would like to have a stylish black cap. NZ Rugby and Silverlake just need to work out how to make sure it has an AB logo on it.

    These sort of games are a start.

    that made me a little sick

    Well it's either that or all (rather than a few) our good players are offshore domestically, as we can't pay enough - professionalism

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @mikedogz said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    This game is being played at 2:30pm Saturday NZ time. Right when a lot of club finals are being played.

    Bummer.

    Needs better coordination

    we're paying a home game against Fiji in the US. The wants or needs of the NZ rugby public actually matter fuck all to the NZRU

    I'm guessing this is to do with Silverlake's strategy for growing NZ Rugby and especially its revenue.

    If we could get 1/100th proportion of American kids wandering round in $55 All Black caps that cost $5 to make - as there are NZ kids wandering round in NBA caps - then probably there's $50 million bucks.

    These are made up numbers - but, there are 8 billion people wandering the planet and a good proportion of them would like to have a stylish black cap. NZ Rugby and Silverlake just need to work out how to make sure it has an AB logo on it.

    These sort of games are a start.

    that made me a little sick

    Well it's either that or all (rather than a few) our good players are offshore domestically, as we can't pay enough - professionalism

    because rugby economics make no sense. players are paid far to much given the broadcast revenue they generate.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    Darry in for Patrick in the squad to rest Patricks body. Full squad travelled

    So - why not name him in the squad? Weird only taking 3 locks

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    replied to nzzp on last edited by
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    @nzzp said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    Darry in for Patrick in the squad to rest Patricks body. Full squad travelled

    So - why not name him in the squad? Weird only taking 3 locks

    especially as they now have to pay him anyway

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  • Canes4lifeC Offline
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    replied to reprobate on last edited by
    #97

    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Kiwiwomble I don't disagree at all that Proctor deserves a chance, but as of right now i think at least one wing and the halfback need to change more, and would like to retain some combinations.
    Likewise in the forwards it would be nice to see the other props get a shot, but a very poor lineout and Taylor not going great make Aumua more of a priority.
    And I would like to see what both Blackadder and Sititi can offer, but preferably not both at the same time.
    It's a new team, new systems, and every game early on is an opportunity to build continuity - so once you've picked a side you don't want to make wholesale changes - which is also a reason I was disappointed with the conservative initial selections.

    I'd argue that the Barrett/Proctor combination is more comfortable than the Barrett/Ioane combo so I don't see too much risk having an extra newbie in there.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    The carry metres from our starting pack don't make for good reading, particularly de Groot and Lomax who appear to have made 1 m between them in 6 carries.

    It is easy to pick off one out runners no matter what their size or skill. Easy pickings for a good defense.

    Especially off the glacial service Christie provides.... Literally let's the D set...the has a cuppa , then passing well back to our ball runners... very frustrating

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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life that's fair, but rieko ought to have more established combos with telea, reece, perofeta, BB.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

    @Canes4life that's fair, but rieko ought to have more established combos with telea, reece, perofeta, BB.

    Except I think only Beaudy will start from that lot this week.

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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
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    @Canes4life which comes back to my whole point - wholesale changes mean you learn nothing, and gain nothing in terms of useful combinations for when one of the top XV gets injured.

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