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    Machpants
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    #1423

    A wins a win and I love it, but that performance is a big loss versus boks

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

    Almost everyone if his height stats are to be considered correct. He's 190cms tall - not exactly scaring the shit out of PSDT.

    You'll need an elephant gun to scare PSDT. Having said that the ABs have done well against the nasty Boks by innovating and collapsing their lungs.

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    Frank
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    Ratima coming on shows we should try to play fast as our basic plan.
    Giving DMac a fraction more time to make decisions makes a world of difference.
    This is our rugby style and and natural advantage that Super Rugby gives us.
    So use it.

    Christie is lauded for his kicking and defence - as if the other halfbacks can't tackle or kick.

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    sparky
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    Nice to win the series but we've got two tests in South Africa and then England, Ireland and France away coming up.

    We will need to find a lot more by then.

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    SBW1
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    All Blacks, Rugby, Sport

    Player ratings: The ABs reserve who was almost perfect

    Player ratings: The ABs reserve who was almost perfect

    One All Black almost earned a perfect score off the bench.

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    No Quarter
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    Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage of his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

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    Tim
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    Any news on Samisoni Taukei'aho's injury?

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    No Quarter
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    Jordan and Clarke on the wings will be a big step up

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    gt12
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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage if his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

    That one kick fucked me right off, but apart from that he was magic - looked like BB from 9 years ago. Maybe a 23 jersey will give him the capability to influence the game using his strengths late in the game.

    He's really very similar to Savea. Both have been the best player in the world based on their Super form, but there is always a question about whether their magic needs 80 minutes or is better condensed into 30-35 minutes against tiring legs (at least, at International level).

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    nostrildamus
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    @Frank said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    We have no loose forward ball carrier, and England had two in Cunningham-Smith and Earls.
    I'd bench Savea to cover 7 and 8 to be used as an impact player and start Sititi at 8
    Papalii is an 80 minute player.
    6??? - Blackadder or Vaii

    I was thinking Savea could be dynamite off the bench. He tends to explode then get buried. And we need better lineout options.

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    nostrildamus
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Beauden started his career off the bench as a world class impact player. He could be very good for us at this stage if his career closing games coming on fresh with 20 to go.

    That one kick fucked me right off, but apart from that he was magic - looked like BB from 9 years ago. Maybe a 23 jersey will give him the capability to influence the game using his strengths late in the game.

    He's really very similar to Savea. Both have been the best player in the world based on their Super form, but there is always a question about whether their magic needs 80 minutes or is better condensed into 30-35 minutes against tiring legs (at least, at International level).

    Seems to me BB has lost that crazy instant speed but is still fast enough for 10 and serviceable at 15. And I suspect his last season's final AB games he was a bit more ginger/carrying niggles but that is no longer an issue. So he is paying back their confidence in his selection. Off the bench again he is a genuine asset.

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    nostrildamus
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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

    Except Finau.

    Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

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    gt12
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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

    Except Finau.

    Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

    Also bigger, but is our 7.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @frugby said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Blackadder really does improve every time he gets injured... not quite sure how you can confidently say he is going to be the answer... telling he playing openside for the Crusaders.

    A loose trio of Blackadder, Papalii and Savea would be bullied for a lack of size.

    Who is bigger? Every loose forward in the country including Sotutu, etc. Exactly the same size.

    Except Finau.

    Papalii doesn't seem bullied that often, isn't exactly a twig.

    Also bigger, but is our 7.

    Yet, Rassie has followed our lead, with a pilfering 8 but munter 6 and 7s. Anyway, I think Finau will be very good but needs time. Papalii continues to grow, Blackadder is the most natural, but is always broken.
    Sotutu will be in the squad later but he tends to go missing when the heavy lifting is needed (see the Brumbies semi- I am sure that was a factor).

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    MiketheSnow
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    Razor could be a villain in a batman flick

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    gt12
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    @Old-Samurai-Jack

    Look, I see your argument, except it still boils down to Blackadder being able to fulfill the same role as PSTD.

    Kwagga / Savea
    Kolisi / Papalii
    PSDT / Blackadder

    One of those pairs is not at all like the other.

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    African Monkey
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    @frugby The fern logic, the less you play, the higher you get rated.

    Man, this forum is crazy. We're in a transition period and things will take time getting used to. Like yeah, players had indifferent nights, but if it were up to people on Here, we'd make about 13 changes a test just to get peoples favourites in. They're still finding their feet and getting used to things under a nee coaching system. It always seems to be the same parochial bias as well which clouds everyone's judgement.

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    Tim
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    2 nil series victory against a good team. Argentina games will be invaluable before playing South Africa.

    Would love to see us use more robust ball carrying and recycling.

    Six, lock, and lineout biggest concerns. Need to find a better option than Finau. Maybe play Tuipulotu for 40 and have him carry a lot?

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    Tim
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    I would love some injury updates on Lord, Clarke etc.

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