What are you listening to, right now................

Tim

MajorRage

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Yeah I agree with that, I didn't word it particularly well. Like I said, he was very good but Patton is next level. Perhaps Gould is overlooked a bit because he is a bit less flashy and lower profile than Flea ( who although has a personality that would grate is still a fantastic player ) I rate Gould but is he THAT good ?
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I'm not bass player, but every single bassist, without exception, name him as an influence. I suspect he was more innovative & talented though, than being actually viewed as an incredible amazing bass player.
 
 
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Hammett and Hetfields respective guitar leads in "One" showcase how good those two were in their prime, fucken awesome, yet distinct, playing and Lars, dickhead that he is, could do that machine gun metal drumming as good as anyone. I've read that Lars has regressed as he has gotten older and years on the road playing the same stuff has meant he has little time to actually practice and maintain his skills.
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Yeah, Lars Ulrich drumming probably creates more disagreement amongst musicians than anything else. He says himself everything that you've written above. I think the more time has gone on, the more he's just settled into being the Metallica drummer, and playing whats required to work with Hetfield. As lets face it, even though Hetfield and Ulrich sort of "own the band", it's in a Angus and Malcom Young sort of way.

MN5

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I'm not bass player, but every single bassist, without exception, name him as an influence. I suspect he was more innovative & talented though, than being actually viewed as an incredible amazing bass player.
 
 
 
Yeah, Lars Ulrich drumming probably creates more disagreement amongst musicians than anything else. He says himself everything that you've written above. I think the more time has gone on, the more he's just settled into being the Metallica drummer, and playing whats required to work with Hetfield. As lets face it, even though Hetfield and Ulrich sort of "own the band", it's in a Angus and Malcom Young sort of way.
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Apparently Charlie Watts is an incredible Jazz drummer but "sold his soul" to be in one of the biggest bands of all time and pound out some pretty basic stuff for over 50 years. Ginger Baker has said he hates the Stones but Watts sends him tickets to their shows whenever they're in town knowing full well they'll end up in the bin....but even Baker admits Watts is the best muso in the group by far which is excellent praise from a legend who doesn't have a nice word to say about anyone. ( do catch "Beware of Mr Baker" if you get a chance, aamazing doco )

phoenetia

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="608670" data-time="1472026778">Misfortune? The story of Mosley is a classic story of making your own luck. He's been lucky in later life that the existing members of FNM have held no hard feelings. He lost his shit just as the band was starting to break out and thus missed out on the best years. Gould & Bottum are the driving force of that band and always have been. Gould is one of, if not, the most innovative and respected bass players to exist. Find any decent bass player in a band and they will all say influenced by Gould, without exception. Bottum is the glue that runs the whole show.</blockquote>Incidentally, FNM re-released We Care Alot earlier this week which has some new mixes. I was never really big into Mosley era FNM but it was cool watching them live stream their Mosley reunion the other day over Facebook. Lots of complaints from Patton era fans in the feed though. Pretty cool seeing selfies of Patton and Mosley together. I've never really considered Gould a great bass player but I appreciate what he does do very much and he's one of my favourites. I consider him a fantastic song writer though and its his understanding of tension and release that's such a key part of FNMs sound.

Bones

I got you. Split enz at an airport bar in Dublin, go figure.

SammyC

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This came on youtube after a D.O.C song I was listening to. Had literally never heard of this song until now. MC Ren, Eazy E, Dr Dre, Digital Underground, Ice T, Tone Loc and other West Coast rappers. The thing I really dig about this track and N.W.A tracks of the same era is the funky bass line. <a class="bbc_url" href="

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Given your avatar is the beats rhymes and life album cover mate (criminally underrated album in my opinion) thought you'd appreciate this mate :) <a class="bbc_url" href="https://soundcloud.com/wax-poetics/a-tribe-called-quest-beats-rhymes-and-life-20th-anniversary-mixtape-mixed-by-chris-read">https://soundcloud.com/wax-poetics/a-tribe-called-quest-beats-rhymes-and-life-20th-anniversary-mixtape-mixed-by-chris-read</a> 
20th anniversary mixtape with a few rare remixes thrown in

MN5

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Incidentally, FNM re-released We Care Alot earlier this week which has some new mixes. 
I was never really big into Mosley era FNM but it was cool watching them live stream their Mosley reunion the other day over Facebook. Lots of complaints from Patton era fans in the feed though. Pretty cool seeing selfies of Patton and Mosley together. 
I've never really considered Gould a great bass player but I appreciate what he does do very much and he's one of my favourites. 
I consider him a fantastic song writer though and its his understanding of tension and release that's such a key part of FNMs sound.
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Mosely era FNM did a cool song called "Annes Song" so would have loved to see Patton and the boys do to that what they did to 'We Care A Lot" ( ie make an awesome song EVEN better ).
 
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I have heard Gould is a real driver in the band sounding as good and as diverse as they do.
 
 
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I got you. Split enz at an airport bar in Dublin, go figure.
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righto

Bones

I know, right.

MN5

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I know, right.
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Good band in the day, "Give it a whirl" is a great track.

phoenetia

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1472268121" data-cid="609435" data-author="MN5">Mosely era FNM did a cool song called "Annes Song" so would have loved to see Patton and the boys do to that what they did to 'We Care A Lot" ( ie make an awesome song EVEN better ). [media]

I have heard Gould is a real driver in the band sounding as good and as diverse as they do.</blockquote>Annes Song is great, classic Martin solo. Aye, Patton tends to do Mosely era material better than Mosely This track is a great example [media]

MN5

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Annes Song is great, classic Martin solo. 
Aye, Patton tends to do Mosely era material better than Mosely 
This track is a great example 
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True, Martin could shred with the best of them if he got a chance.
 
Goulds bassline in that very cool as well.

NTA

Igor Plastinkin released his album of guitar magic. I'm only part way through it, but this track still kicks all kinds of arse.

NTA

In funny stuff: because the album is by a Russian chap, some of the titles haven't come across quite soundly in English e.g. the track above is on the album as
 
"Not Enough of Air"
 
Along with some others like "Remembering Of Home" and "Don't Afraid!"

Tim

Just when you thought you were safe from Michael Bolotin style vocals, here's something nearly as bad:
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://open.spotify.com/track/4lfe2sNhHEqfiBjPquuMMn'>https://open.spotify.com/track/4lfe2sNhHEqfiBjPquuMMn</a>
 
cf. the original track:
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://open.spotify.com/track/5QoTdzVSygZB3SRxgFUANZ'>https://open.spotify.com/track/5QoTdzVSygZB3SRxgFUANZ</a>

Donsteppa

This is bloody impressive, and made me dig out the Tears for Fears* best of CD too.

*I may now be banned from the thread for being too mainstream/not cool enough :)

mariner4life

Tears For Fears are fucking great

jegga

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This is bloody impressive, and made me dig out the Tears for Fears* best of CD too. <a class="bbc_url" href="

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</a> *I may now be banned from the thread for being too mainstream/not cool enough :)</blockquote>
 
Is that an a actual instrument or something he made himself?

MN5

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Tears For Fears are fucking great
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Yes. Yes they are. Only bad thing about them is the lead singer gets really bad sweat patches and is constantly brushing his hair out of his eyes.
 
They did some genuinely cool shit back in the day.

Donsteppa

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Is that an a actual instrument or something he made himself?</blockquote>
 
I hadn't heard of it till seeing that on Facebook. It's a hammered dulcimer: <a class="bbc_url" href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammered_dulcimer">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammered_dulcimer</a>

MN5

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Primus/FNM were in my wheelhouse when living in SF around 91, fun nights out there, totally thrashed them to death though.
 
watch out for the Frizzle Fry LP reissues though, they're mixed so low they're basically fucking inaudible.
 
being an indie snob dickhead I always lumped them in with that Duran Duran era poppy bullshit but if you've got a top shit sound system, and a tiny wee mountain gorilla of a turntable cartridge, holy shit, watch out, that Big Chair lp was recorded in heaven.
 
another "guilty pleasure" from that era is A FLOCK OF SEAGULLS. yes, you can have your Austin Powers laughs, fine, go on, I dont give a shit
 
currently on, ISIS last one, "wavering radiance", more boring metal I keep coming back to. Split up in 2010 and then oops, slight name reappropriation, haha, wondering how their t-shirt sales have been going since then
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I'd add Joe Jackson, Go West and Style Council to the list of "80s stuff that should be shit but is actually good"
 
You can't beat Power Station though, good old Robert Palmer rocking out in a suit like he's just come back from a business meeting ( and they had the guitarist and bassist from Duran Duran too of course, another to add to the above list. )
 
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The Silver Fern

What are you listening to, right now................