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    @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Colin Newboult  /  Jul 9, 2024  /  England

    All Blacks accused of ‘illegal’ scrummaging as England legend urges Steve Borthwick to report it to World Rugby

    All Blacks accused of ‘illegal’ scrummaging as England legend urges Steve Borthwick to report it to World Rugby

    Ex-England hooker Brian Moore felt that England were hard done by with some of the decisions at the scrum during Saturday’s defeat to the All Blacks.

    It seems EDG was standing up outside English TH armpit, which, strictly speaking, is not legal. But in H1 generally was on other side from ref who only saw the damage he and Taylor wrought. Was pinged at 42, although had ABs cleared from that scrum he’d have let it slide.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Yep, completely understand that. Doesn't really make a lot of sense when you're selecting a guy who must have been a big reason why his team didn't even make said finals, over a guy who was very much a reason his team did

    Very fair point. Funaki and Ratima were top drawer in the SR season and I'd assumed Funaki was the one who missed out. Ditto Plummer.

    Maybe we'll find out what Funaki needs to work on at the next presser.

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    @Victor-Meldrew yeah, I would've hoped they'd gamble on seeing what Plummer can do instead of Havili. He's certainly a lot better in contact.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    “Razors hairline” could be the “Foster is Fat” of 2024……

    As a Stephen King fan, Can I suggest Robertson's moniker be "The Walking Together Dude"...

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Victor-Meldrew yeah, I would've hoped they'd gamble on seeing what Plummer can do instead of Havili. He's certainly a lot better in contact.

    Maybe the plan is to get thru the first few Tests on experience wherever possible, get comfortable and then see what Plummer and co. can do in TRC?

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    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Kirwan no worries mate I’ll pass it onto him today when I see him.
    If he shaved his head would you still comment on his hair. Who gives a fuck that he’s trying to save the last bit of hair he has.

    I just think it's funny a guy with the nickname "Razor" has a comb over. Most guys these days (like me) just shave their head and get on with life.

    Kirwan, I say this with full respect, taking into account your many years of work to keep the Fern ticking over and generally just the right amount of robust debate across rugby topics, but . . . your "Crafty Comb" nickname for Robertson is probably one of the lamest things I've seen in a long time.

    And this is from someone who has had shares in a lot of slow horses, so I know lame when I see it.

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    @Smuts

    Bones must be a few levels below 4th division but he will be very pleased you have elevated him this high! 😀

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    @DaGrubster bro my most recent game was against Toulon. Hashtag superstar over here

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    @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    The 2024 Crusaders pack!??Consistently?!?

    Jeepers. The Cantabs made less fuss about how good their team was after seven years. You guys are going to be unbearable if you win any more championships.

    We get that your new coach is very good, and has a better game plan than the others. That doesn't suddenly mean all your players are superstars.

    Jesus, you clearly never met a Cantab in 1998. 😉

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    Genuinely surprised at the aversion to a visible shot clock. If we are worried about time wasting then just shorten the time on the clock. Why wouldn’t we want a single source of truth, visible to all parties? I used to kick, and having a ref in my ear telling me “20 seconds” then “10 seconds” sounds bloody annoying.

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    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Genuinely surprised at the aversion to a visible shot clock. If we are worried about time wasting then just shorten the time on the clock. Why wouldn’t we want a single source of truth, visible to all parties? I used to kick, and having a ref in my ear telling me “20 seconds” then “10 seconds” sounds bloody annoying.

    Yeah true, seems much easier to break your concentration to turn and look at a shot clock.

    I don't see any great aversion to it, it just seems very unnecessary. But I can understand the desire for it when one AB kicker fell foul of timekeeping once, in one game.

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    @voodoo I'd also suggest you can easily ask the ref not to do that. I'm pretty sure it's not compulsory.

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    It's a good lesson for the ABs (and good from their POV that they learned it in a game where it didn't cost them the match, unlike Australia).

    McKenzie takes a long time to kick goals and then Chiefs have dealt with that by rushing the tee out onto the park. I'm sure the ABs will do something similar moving forward.

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    @Smudge said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @chchfanatic said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Kirwan no worries mate I’ll pass it onto him today when I see him.
    If he shaved his head would you still comment on his hair. Who gives a fuck that he’s trying to save the last bit of hair he has.

    I just think it's funny a guy with the nickname "Razor" has a comb over. Most guys these days (like me) just shave their head and get on with life.

    Kirwan, I say this with full respect, taking into account your many years of work to keep the Fern ticking over and generally just the right amount of robust debate across rugby topics, but . . . your "Crafty Comb" nickname for Robertson is probably one of the lamest things I've seen in a long time.

    And this is from someone who has had shares in a lot of slow horses, so I know lame when I see it.

    I thought the same about all the Fat Foster jokes, tbh.

    I’ll try to be more creative when mocking his vanity 🙂

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    @Kirwan
    Shit, compared to Hansen and Foster (advertisements for Type 2 diabetes) he's in bloody good shape. Makes a nice change.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Genuinely surprised at the aversion to a visible shot clock. If we are worried about time wasting then just shorten the time on the clock. Why wouldn’t we want a single source of truth, visible to all parties? I used to kick, and having a ref in my ear telling me “20 seconds” then “10 seconds” sounds bloody annoying.

    Yeah true, seems much easier to break your concentration to turn and look at a shot clock.

    I don't see any great aversion to it, it just seems very unnecessary. But I can understand the desire for it when one AB kicker fell foul of timekeeping once, in one game.

    I’d say if it was me, I’d want to take a look at the clock at [40]s to make sure I was starting my routine then wouldn’t look again. Guess everyone would be different.

    One consequence of a visible shot clock would be unruly and uncouth crowds counting down on every attempt. The English wouldn’t know what to do with themselves!

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    Maybe they should have a guy on a loudspeaker. He can count down from ten. Could even have it in Maori and also sign language.

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    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Maybe they should have a guy on a loudspeaker. He can count down from ten. Could even have it in Maori and also sign language.

    Would be an improvement on Sweet Caroline

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    I'd prefer it if there wasn't a visible shot clock. The kickers have plenty of time

    Nic Gill was partially to blame as he took far too long getting the tee to DMac.

    Back in my day we were heeling the dirt and placing the ball right on the turf. No need for this technology

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    I'd prefer it if there wasn't a visible shot clock. The kickers have plenty of time

    Nic Gill was partially to blame as he took far too long getting the tee to DMac.

    Back in my day we were heeling the dirt and placing the ball right on the turf. No need for this technology

    Rip the boot off and kick it with the socked foot 💪

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