All Blacks vs England I

nostrildamus

@chucknz said in All Blacks vs England I:

@Tim you must be gutted that we won, seems to be the result blues fans are wanting

nope, we can be Blues fans AND AB supporters

MN5

@Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

Finau has been promoted too early. Everyone waits for the "smashed 'em bro" moment, forgetting his workrate isn't great.

Unfortunately the English forward pack isn't made up of only shit Australian first fives.

This has always been my issue with him. JC and Kano regularly buried forwards even bigger than they were. Finau has ( from what I’ve seen ) made a dubious reputation of smashing first fives in vulnerable passing positions.

Victor Meldrew

@Frank said in All Blacks vs England I:

Telea gets involved, but lacks top end pace and power. I'd replace him with Clarke.

He looked ~~a bit~~ lost at times tonight.

DMac has to be persisted with, but God damn he did some wayward pointless kicks.

It was Beauden Barrettesque.

Was he executing the game-plan well or badly?

Tim

@MN5

clears throat, takes deep breath

Blackadder may not be much of a lineout option, but he'd be a better pick at six.

Might have to move Barrett or Vaai there.

BerniesCorner

Bloody hard taskmasters on here. England are a bloody good team across the park.
Test 2 going to be awesome also.

nostrildamus

if only we had a big 6 who could tackle and carry and has form! If only!

BerniesCorner

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

if only we had a big 6 who could tackle and carry and has form! If only!

Sititi

Tim

@nostrildamus Imagine if he had out played the current bum twice in four weeks? That would be a miracle.

chimoaus

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

if only we had a big 6 who could tackle and carry and has form! If only!

Yes I seem to remember seeing one in the super final.

Frank

@Tim said in All Blacks vs England I:

Blackadder may not be much of a lineout option, but he'd be a better pick at six.

He was used very effectively as a front of lineout option by Foster. (in the one or two games he played).

Tim

@Frank Could do that and use four man lineouts as well to mix it up.

chimoaus

What made the Blues loose tri so good. Multiple lineout options, multiple running options and the ability to play tight.

nostrildamus

@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs England I:

if only we had a big 6 who could tackle and carry and has form! If only!

Sititi

He's young, let him earn his stripes at his specialist position, I mean he's played 6 right but mostly at 8 for the Chiefs?

Gunner

Looked like a continuation of the Fozzie era to me.

No noticeable changes in game plan really, except for our first try, where we worked bloody hard in closer before sending it wide.

Unfortunately there was way too much of going sideways, ruck, sideways again, ruck, sideways once more, then kick aimlessly away and let England chew up easy metres on the counter attack.

Thought both wingers were busy, and did the best with the shitty ball they were getting.

TJ was great, sucks he’s injured again, as now we’re stuck with Christie. Positive is now there is no option, Ratima will get game time.

Thought both locks got stuck in, Papalii was hitting anything that moved, Aumua good when he got on, the rest of the pack a bit meh.

Perofeta went better than expected.

And fuck that ref made some very interesting calls / non calls.

Take the win (could have very easily been a loss), hope to start seeing some innovation with the game plan and improvement in physicality from here on in.

nostrildamus

@Gunner said in All Blacks vs England I:

Looked like a continuation of the Fozzie era to me.

No noticeable changes in game plan really, except for our first try, where we worked bloody hard in closer before sending it wide.

Unfortunately there was way too much of going sideways, ruck, sideways again, ruck, sideways once more, then kick aimlessly away and let England chew up easy metres on the counter attack.

Thought both wingers were busy, and did the best with the shitty ball they were getting.

TJ was great, sucks he’s injured again, as now we’re stuck with Christie. Positive is now there is no option, Ratima will get game time.

Thought both locks got stuck in, Papalii was hitting anything that moved, Aumua good when he got on, the rest of the pack a bit meh.

Perofeta went better than expected.

And fuck that ref made some very interesting calls / non calls.

Take the win (could have very easily been a loss), hope to start seeing some innovation with the game plan and improvement in physicality from here on in.

Well said.

kpkanz

People are talking nonsense here if they think there's no difference to the Foster era from tonights game.

Also the blatant disregard of the quality of the English team, this is a really good England team who beat Ireland 2 games ago and were about to beat France in France if not for a penalty right on full time.

To beat them first up with a brand new coaching setup and all the noise that would have come with it is extremely impressive.

I'm also amazed at some people here genuinely asking for Plummer over Dmac.

Gunner

@kpkanz said in All Blacks vs England I:

People are talking nonsense here if they think there's no difference to the Foster era from tonights game.

Feel free to enlighten us on the differences?

mariner4life

Shit that pissed me off for the last few years:
Rubbish kick chase
No ruck pressure

Tonight was exactly the same. Fucking trash.

Tim

@mariner4life They actually did it at the end of the game, but there was a long period of aimless kicking.

mariner4life

I know it's generally negative but I thought that was a great game of rugby. Both teams had a real crack, and in the main the accuracy was high.
We won which is awesome.

And it was miles in front of the next game.

Congratulations to the ABs on a good win

The Silver Fern

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