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  • Chris B.C Online
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    @Bones Taylor added. “I have so much respect for that. I love him as a bloke. He is a bloody top lad and I know everyone else in the team feels the same.”

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Bones Taylor added. “I have so much respect for that. I love him as a bloke. He is a bloody top lad and I know everyone else in the team feels the same.”

    Sounds like full support of the Board….

    If Foster was still coach Blackadder would be there. Don’t see too much controversy there. The Sititi call is the one.

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    Really really good!!!

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @Bones Taylor added. “I have so much respect for that. I love him as a bloke. He is a bloody top lad and I know everyone else in the team feels the same.”

    I believe they call that "hearsay"....

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    @Bones You'll have to ask Codie how he knows. 🙂

    I think he's a pretty relatable guy. Didn't come through the usual rugby channels.

    Didn't play rugby at High School until the 7th form - and then I think only for the third XV and because all his mates were playing.

    Then Senior B in Nelson first year out of school - which is a pretty social grade.

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    @Kiwiwomble

    Sorutu has birthright eligibility for England through his mother, so the stand down period needs to be 3 years if you want to play for another country.

    Sotutu’s last game for the ABs was 19/11/2022.

    So he is eligible on 20/11/2025.

    He is contracted to the NZR until 2026 and England only select players from within England. So he would have to get early release and sign for an English club for later this year or start of the next season which would be August 2025

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    While we can speculate on which loosie is better than the other what we do know is that they are all slightly different but all very very good.
    We also know that we are no longer in the Mitchel days of coaching and I am sure the players missing out have been told what they need to do to get in .... in a position that has lots of injurys and with an ABs XV and Māori's and 14 tests this year. I'm pretty sure there will be room for Hoskins to show what he can do sometime this year.

    When you interview for jobs and have three outstanding candidates the final reason for picking one over the other can be quite frankly a coin toss. I dont think they actually tossed a coin but decided they had seen something they wanted just a tiny bit more in one player over the other.
    And there's only one way to find out.

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    Lock, 10 and 12 are still the biggest holes to fill.
    We've gone with three locks, two of which are slightly broken/injured, Two 15s who play 10 (well but are actually both best at 15) but no up and comers, and 1 specialist 12.
    Will they trt to convert Proctor to 12?

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    Could we have some positivism about Sotutu, please? The man's got a skill set which is unique in New Zealand rugby. TWM ought to be focussed on how to get him to reach his potential, which if they succeed should have him remembered as a great All Black.
    After all, at the end of the day, we're all in this together.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Could we have some positivism about Sotutu, please? The man's got a skill set which is unique in New Zealand rugby. TWM ought to be focussed on how to get him to reach his potential, which if they succeed should have him remembered as a great All Black.
    After all, at the end of the day, we're all in this together.

    To be fair, Sititi so far has shades of Lauaki/Vunipola with a high work rate. So can't fault that selection.

    It's just puzzling that a centre that can play 8 has no versatility and Josh Blackie reincarnated is preferred.

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    We all know Blackadder is going to break, and then it will be interesting who they call in.
    Will it be Grace or Sotutu?
    Will the fern meltdown escalate?

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    Perhaps more to the point, what if Ardie was out for a couple of games?

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    Tosi can cover 8 no worries

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    @pakman yeah you'd usually think Jacobson but he's too much like DP. I guess Sititi is most like Savea?

    So.... prolly Blackadder

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    @Darren said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    We all know Blackadder is going to break, and then it will be interesting who they call in.
    Will it be Grace or Sotutu?
    Will the fern meltdown escalate?

    I have a feeling it would be Grace. If Savea broke I think it would be Sotutu.

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    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Ethan's games as AB

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    This is pretty damning.

    Permanently injured player who doesn't appear to have the frame or game to play 6 just strolls back in - when he effectively hasn't played test rugby for 3 years (and wasn't even established 3 years ago).

    Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    Instead of making a call on Jacobson vs Blackadder they've effectively just picked the same player twice

    this is really my only concern. And, to add to it, you could easily argue that with DP, they've picked the same player 3 times.

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    @KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well

    @mariner4life i just read somewhere else, and i have found the quite myself so need to confirm, but they said they had read razor said they lied sititi as a ball runner....if they move savea to 7....so even he isn't focusing on one position

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - selection:

    @KiwiMurph everyone needs to be able to play multiple positions passably....rather than one position really well

    That seems to have been the trend since 2015 and it's served us well!!

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    For the future but - Tosi, Williams, Tuipolotu, Sititi, Samisoni - with Roigard sniping the fringes.

    That's some serious destructive ball running!

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