Hurricanes 2024
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Daffy-Jaffy I can't see Sullivan moving, the Canes have supported him through two major injuries so I think he'll want to repay the favour and have a big season in 2025. You never know though, recruitment can be a funny thing at times.
Yeah quite a few players took strides this year in their play. A bit like the Blues this year though, it will be all about harnessing their experience from this year and taking that into next year to be a more well-rounded team.
Sullivan is very average. Team needs to move on from him.
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@Frank said in Hurricanes 2024:
I wonder if Ruben Love had chosen 10 rather than 15 that things might have worked out a little better for the Canes.
10 is a more important position than 15 in the overall context of the game.He is not really proven at 10. Even at NPC level.
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@chchfanatic said in Hurricanes 2024:
Do the hurricanes still play off for 3rd and 4th. Just asking for a friend.
I don't think so. But they have a greater probability of playing in the 3rd place game than the Crusaders...
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Frank said in Hurricanes 2024:
I wonder if Ruben Love had chosen 10 rather than 15 that things might have worked out a little better for the Canes.
10 is a more important position than 15 in the overall context of the game.He is not really proven at 10. Even at NPC level.
If he played more there he’d definitely be a better option than Cameron. We need to start giving Godfrey time in the 10 jersey though. He’s got a higher ceiling than Cameron aswell.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Frank said in Hurricanes 2024:
I wonder if Ruben Love had chosen 10 rather than 15 that things might have worked out a little better for the Canes.
10 is a more important position than 15 in the overall context of the game.He is not really proven at 10. Even at NPC level.
If he played more there he’d definitely be a better option than Cameron. We need to start giving Godfrey time in the 10 jersey though. He’s got a higher ceiling than Cameron aswell.
Agree. But I'd prefer both to see some game time in the NPC at 1st. But maybe unlikely if Love makes the ABs as a FB
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@Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Winger said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Frank said in Hurricanes 2024:
I wonder if Ruben Love had chosen 10 rather than 15 that things might have worked out a little better for the Canes.
10 is a more important position than 15 in the overall context of the game.He is not really proven at 10. Even at NPC level.
If he played more there he’d definitely be a better option than Cameron. We need to start giving Godfrey time in the 10 jersey though. He’s got a higher ceiling than Cameron aswell.
Agree. But I'd prefer both to see some game time in the NPC at 1st. But maybe unlikely if Love makes the ABs as a FB
Yeah Godfrey definitely needs to play 10 in the NPC. Love will likely be in the ABs but who knows after last night.
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Our forward pack almost picks itself next year with Iose almost guaranteed to move out for Savea and become that impact player off the bench. The big question marks will be in the backs. Will Higgins be the guy to replace Barrett, who will start on the wings? Etc
Based on the players we’ve signed/likely will sign I think we’ll kick off the year with the below 23. Pretty strong already even without new signings announced.
- Numia
- Aumua
- Lomax
- Delany
- Walker-Leawere
- Flanders
- Lakai
- Savea (c)
- Roigard
- Cameron (could be someone else)
- Rayasi
- Higgins
- Proctor
- Naholo
- Love
- Tuputupu
- Rakete-Stones
- Tosi
- Sangster
- Iose
- Perenara
- Godfrey
- Sullivan
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@Canes4life Even though Solomon has been playing on the wing at U20 level he is really a 1st 5/fullback. Quick and elusive but not very big.
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@Bovidae said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Canes4life Even though Solomon has been playing on the wing at U20 level he is really a 1st 5/fullback. Quick and elusive but not very big.
Yeah I think his position (if he makes Super) will be a wing. He’s definitely small but if he can put on a bit of size he could be good enough for that level. Definitely has enough pace and he has a solid kicking game.
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@Frank said in Hurricanes 2024:
I wonder if Ruben Love had chosen 10 rather than 15 that things might have worked out a little better for the Canes.
10 is a more important position than 15 in the overall context of the game.Worst thing was losing Roigard. He seemed to compensate for Cameron's weaknesses
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@canefan said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Frank said in Hurricanes 2024:
I wonder if Ruben Love had chosen 10 rather than 15 that things might have worked out a little better for the Canes.
10 is a more important position than 15 in the overall context of the game.Worst thing was losing Roigard. He seemed to compensate for Cameron's weaknesses
100% he made all the key decisions, whereas Perenara is too erratic to compensate for Cameron’s flaws.
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@Machpants I don't think the Canes will care too much what Bidwell has to say. One of the worst NZ rugby journos going around. They'll do their review of this season and I'm sure there will be plenty of work ons but with Roigard back next year and Savea coming back in, along with likely having a few more newly announced ABs, expectations on this side will be a lot higher than they were at the beginning of this year where they weren't really considered title contenders so to speak.
The Canes shat the bed in that first 6 minutes of the game on Saturday, 6 minutes of rugby killed off their season but they were well off their stride before that. The week before, and the game against MP just showed we just weren't functioning at our best at the right end of the season.
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@Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Machpants I don't think the Canes will care too much what Bidwell has to say. One of the worst NZ rugby journos going around. They'll do their review of this season and I'm sure there will be plenty of work ons but with Roigard back next year and Savea coming back in, along with likely having a few more newly announced ABs, expectations on this side will be a lot higher than they were at the beginning of this year where they weren't really considered title contenders so to speak.
The Canes shat the bed in that first 6 minutes of the game on Saturday, 6 minutes of rugby killed off their season but they were well off their stride before that. The week before, and the game against MP just showed we just weren't functioning at our best at the right end of the season.
Sadly, though he's right. Laidlaw started off so well and then the coaches started f++king up
It wasn't just this game either. Poor selections before this game (Moorby, Iose both lost form big time, dropping Flanders etc etc) and a stupid game plan for this game. And a team in the wrong head space.
Laidlaw needs to reevaluate his approach. Otherwise, it will be another Colin Cooper period. Good but not good enough to ever win it all.
I hope he can do it but it was so obvious what was going wrong and they also starting losing and didn't correct so I'm not too hopeful
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There seems to be a narrative on Cane's thread about Iose losing form. As a neutral I didn't notice too much difference throughout the season for him.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes 2024:
There seems to be a narrative on Cane's thread about Iose losing form. As a neutral I didn't notice too much difference throughout the season for him.
He badly lost form. From Ab QUALITY TO JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS
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@Machpants said in Hurricanes 2024:
He raises some valid points
Yes but I recall watching the Blues in the 80s play some fantastic running rugby. Great scrum, but also a great backline (tackling sometimes optional, Mr Fox). Or was I imagining it?
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@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Machpants said in Hurricanes 2024:
He raises some valid points
Yes but I recall watching the Blues in the 80s play some fantastic running rugby. Great scrum, but also a great backline (tackling sometimes optional, Mr Fox). Or was I imagining it?
The Blues in the 80s? You were definitely imagining it.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Hurricanes 2024:
There seems to be a narrative on Cane's thread about Iose losing form. As a neutral I didn't notice too much difference throughout the season for him.
Yeah, I'm in agreeance with you, he might not have been as good as he was earlier in the season, but he was one of our best and most consistent players all year. The only game he didn't fire this year was the semi-final where he was outplayed by Sititi.
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@Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes 2024:
@nostrildamus said in Hurricanes 2024:
@Machpants said in Hurricanes 2024:
He raises some valid points
Yes but I recall watching the Blues in the 80s play some fantastic running rugby. Great scrum, but also a great backline (tackling sometimes optional, Mr Fox). Or was I imagining it?
The Blues in the 80s? You were definitely imagining it.
But Terry Wright, John Kirwan! As for running rugby in general, M Jones scored tries backs would be proud of!
