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  • nzzpN Offline
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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #1284

    @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @African-Monkey More that the punters think the Chiefs are much more likely to beat the Canes than the Brumbies to knock you guys out.

    Chiefs could have the injury door pathway opened for them with both Canes and (assuming we win) the Blues.

    The titles count no matter what though! And good luck against the Canes

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #1285

    anyone see attendance figures for the QF's?

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble not sure what Chiefs got but roughly I think I saw Blues got 18k, Canes got 15k and Brumbies got 8k

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #1287

    I think that the Chiefs-Reds game was about 10K.

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Bovidae

    I have dominant tackles for each match. Unfortunately I don't have season counts for that though

    Could you share this? Shouldn't be too hard to total them up.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to delicatessen on last edited by Duluth
    #1289

    @delicatessen said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Bovidae

    I have dominant tackles for each match. Unfortunately I don't have season counts for that though

    Could you share this? Shouldn't be too hard to total them up.

    There's a couple of manual steps to get to the match stats.. unfortunately it would take a while to open them all

    Dominant tackles is a weird stat too. I'm not sure what the exact definition is. I remember a couple of Cane hits during the RWC thhat didn't register. Then there's the tactical difference where some teams opt to hold up the ball carrier more often

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    Apparently Derpus writes for The Roar now:

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/14/the-aussies-cant-win-it-and-the-kiwis-dont-care-its-time-to-bin-rotten-to-the-core-super-rugby-pacific-and-start-over/

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim where do these deluded clowns think money is going to come from to prop up the game in Oz? I've read stupid ideas that a national club championship can be funded from SR. Ding ding ding dickhead - the SR clubs are on the bones of their arses; there's no spare cash to fund another tier at the moment.

    Then another comment suggesting a semi-pro competition could see the Wallabies rise to fifth in world rankings. It seems The Roar comments section is for people who've been touched in the head. Then one of them wins a prize and gets to write an article.

    The inevitable sadness of being raised during a golden period and then the reality of middle age and return to the norm sets in.

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    replied to antipodean on last edited by
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    @antipodean It is truly delusional. Half of them think that Shute Shield will prepare players for test rugby.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim I have actually just replied to that column mate, and said basically I see he suggests pulling plug on super for Aus teams as they not making grand final, so to be consistent, I assume he wants Wallabies out of WC too?
    And no more Bledisloe cup games, perhaps Wallabies should just play Island teams and Japan etc?
    Just amazes me writers/etc from anywhere suggesting it's too hard, so lets just play ourselves.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #1294

    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Apparently Derpus writes for The Roar now:

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/14/the-aussies-cant-win-it-and-the-kiwis-dont-care-its-time-to-bin-rotten-to-the-core-super-rugby-pacific-and-start-over/

    Kiwis don't care. Well 30k already sold for other semi, more to the point kiwis don't want to watch a foregone conclusion (tho I do, as I get stressed about live games, I love a smashing!). Git gud Ozzie, ffs, we need it

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    @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Tim I have actually just replied to that column mate, and said basically I see he suggests pulling plug on super for Aus teams as they not making grand final, so to be consistent, I assume he wants Wallabies out of WC too?
    And no more Bledisloe cup games, perhaps Wallabies should just play Island teams and Japan etc?
    > Just amazes me writers/etc from anywhere suggesting it's too hard, so lets just play ourselves.

    Rugby equivalent of incels

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1296

    I'm confused, isn't the Aussie mythos about being the underdog, the little guy, eking out an incredible win due to toughness and determination?

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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by Kiwiwomble
    #1297

    @nostrildamus yeah but thats the point...they have now lost the belief they can win....that part was kind of key

    @Machpants said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Apparently Derpus writes for The Roar now:

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2024/06/14/the-aussies-cant-win-it-and-the-kiwis-dont-care-its-time-to-bin-rotten-to-the-core-super-rugby-pacific-and-start-over/

    Kiwis don't care. Well 30k already sold for other semi, more to the point kiwis don't want to watch a foregone conclusion (tho I do, as I get stressed about live games, I love a smashing!). Git gud Ozzie, ffs, we need it

    thats kind of important though isn't it, would be good if we could get to the point that people still turned up or tuned in just to see their team play, even if its a hiding....thats should be fun to watch

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    #1298

    We need to open up eligibility more. Will help even up the competition. Have top quality kiwis spending a year or two in Aussie. Have some Wallabies over here.

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    #1299

    What top quality Kiwi wants his AB prospects ruined?

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to antipodean on last edited by
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    @antipodean i think he's meaning all ABs to be selected for Aussie teams

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @antipodean i think he's meaning all ABs to be selected for Aussie teams

    What top quality AB wants his chances ruined ?

    And how will they get paid?

    I’m in favor in principle, but those feel like two pretty big questions that would need answers. It also won’t help the Oz depth now they have a more appropriate number of teams.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    replied to gt12 on last edited by
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    @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @antipodean i think he's meaning all ABs to be selected for Aussie teams

    What top quality AB wants his chances ruined ?

    And how will they get paid?

    I’m in favor in principle, but those feel like two pretty big questions that would need answers. It also won’t help the Oz depth now they have a more appropriate number of teams.

    to start with...not my post, was just clarifying what i believe was being suggested

    but, to play devils advocate, i dont think playing for an aussie team would inherently ruin a players chances, guys keep getting picked from the Highlanders even though we're shit more often than we're good

    also, we're bound too see BB back and he hasnt even been playing in the same comp, so class can shine through

    i assume they would get paid proportional to their representations in squads, work out what they would get paid if playing for a NZ team and subtract that from their AB's deal?, other countries seem to work it out so im sure it can be done

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1303

    I get the Aussies just want to win, but letting the Aus sides buy kiwis to do it is a terrible idea for their rugby. They just axed 20% of their professional spots, but to tie up more with overseas players just narrows their potential pathways even more.

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