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  • BonesB Online
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    @Landers92 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

    One thing we have found out though is if a forward pack isn’t going forward he’s not the best at adjusting, that’s an experience thing. Get those dumb mistakes out of his game from trying too hard and he’s fine. I think if you put any of the above halfbacks behind the Highlanders forward pack they would have similar struggles.

    Can be taken into consideration, but his issues don't appear to be to do with forwards not going forward. Even with clean ball he gets to the ruck but then seems to take an age to even step up to it, let alone clear the ball.

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    @KiwiMurph said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

    @Landers92 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

    One thing we have found out though is if a forward pack isn’t going forward he’s not the best at adjusting, that’s an experience thing. Get those dumb mistakes out of his game from trying too hard and he’s fine. I think if you put any of the above halfbacks behind the Highlanders forward pack they would have similar struggles.

    I think the issue with Fakatava is it's the same issues year after year. He debuted in Super Rugby in 2019.

    Admittedly he has had huge injuries and this is his first year as the true starter.

    I'm just not sure he will ever get those errors out of his game.

    His whole game seems a bit frantic to me.

    Having said that I tend to agree with your overall theme that he's more in the frame than some realise.

    Yeah, Razor tried to get him to the Crusaders so he clearly rates, or has rated him in the past, so I think he's probably more in the thinking than some on here believe.

    @Bones said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

    Even with clean ball he gets to the ruck but then seems to take an age to even step up to it, let alone clear the ball.

    That style of play didn't hinder the ABs number 2 halfback's selection chances last year ....

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  • Landers92L Do not disturb
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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Landers92 said in Crusaders v Moana Pasifika:

    One thing we have found out though is if a forward pack isn’t going forward he’s not the best at adjusting, that’s an experience thing. Get those dumb mistakes out of his game from trying too hard and he’s fine. I think if you put any of the above halfbacks behind the Highlanders forward pack they would have similar struggles.

    Can be taken into consideration, but his issues don't appear to be to do with forwards not going forward. Even with clean ball he gets to the ruck but then seems to take an age to even step up to it, let alone clear the ball.

    Yeah fair point, you’re right that it isn’t all about not going forward. It’s puzzling because he never used to slow it down at ruck time. It’s as if he’s been told to slow it down and it’s affected his play. Let’s hope coaches can adjust for his sake because NZ rugby has a huuuge amount of halfback depth and all this competition is great.

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    No Christie please!

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    No Christie please!

    Or Perofeta

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    @KiwiMurph He's alright at fullback. Kicking the ball away in the opposition 22 had me thinking of Barrett in 2023 ...

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph He's alright at fullback. Kicking the ball away in the opposition 22 had me thinking of Barrett in 2023 ...

    Not good enough for ABs.

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    It looks like Jordan won't be ready for the England tests now as he said he hopes to be back in ~8 weeks. He could still be named in the squad though.

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    @Bovidae Seems pointless to name him. 8 weeks is the week after the 3rd test of the year.

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    @KiwiMurph The last part was my assumption but the coaches may want to rehab him in camp. He's only got club rugby to play now.

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    @Bovidae I hope that wasn't gloating.

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    Given they finished top of the Super Table, Razor and co. should be picking at least ten Hurricanes players.

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    wrote on last edited by sparky
    #2493

    Squad based on the Season so far:

    Du Groot
    Lomax
    Ofa T
    Newell
    Williams
    Numia

    Aumua
    Taylor
    Sami T

    S. Barrett
    Tuipolutu
    Vaii
    Darry

    Finau
    Papalii
    Lakai
    Savea
    Iose
    Sotutu

    Hotham
    TJP
    Funaki

    McKenzie
    B. Barrett

    ALB
    J. Barrett
    Proctor
    R. Ioane

    C.Clarke
    Reece
    Telea
    Love

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    @sparky

    Hard to argue with a lot of those choices.

    I think Blackadder will edge out Iose though

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    Darry? No way

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Darry? No way

    Why not?

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    Prop I think could be an interesting one. Though Tu'ungafasi and Williams can both play tighthead, they pretty much only play loosehead these days. Ryan has tended to pick specialists, which means those two + EDG, Numia and Bower are playing for three spots.

    Would leave a gap at tighthead, and with few options to fill it. Ta'avao for a recall? Tosi as a bolter? Dyer?

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    replied to sparky on last edited by
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    @sparky love and Proctor not for me thanks

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Prop I think could be an interesting one. Though Tu'ungafasi and Williams can both play tighthead, they pretty much only play loosehead these days. Ryan has tended to pick specialists, which means those two + EDG, Numia and Bower are playing for three spots.

    Would leave a gap at tighthead, and with few options to fill it. Ta'avao for a recall? Tosi as a bolter? Dyer?

    You can lock in 5 props

    Lomax,De groot,Newell,Williams and Ofa

    Williams and Ofa will cover TH if needed as they will be 3rd choice to play TH.
    Straight battle if they take 6 props Numia v Bower.

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    @Chris I'm going to put Marcel Renata in the mix also.

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