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<p>I've said on here numerous times the Chillis were awesome til they got off the drugs, the moment 2000 hit they turned to shit overall ( not unlike Metalica ) what are your thoughts on Bill Gould ? ( Faith no More ) like the rest of FNM his versatility is outstanding.</p>
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<p>Agree that Roger Waters basslines are simple ( I much prefer Gilmour ) but JPJ did some pretty far out stuff at times. Totally agree on Steve Harris, he is an excellent bassist, the whole of Iron Maiden are top notch musos now I think about it. Harris's high end runs and licks are pretty unique and he drives everything behind the scenes.</p>
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<p>Oasis.....</p>
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<p>Always have, always will.</p>
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<p>Billy Gould is a superb bass player, was he the first to do slap and pop bass in hard rock or metal or whatever fmn are? Interesting they can't stand each other mostly and live in and record in different parts of the US . </p>
<p>I think Harris does the bulk of the songwriting too, I have them on the stereo in my ute at the moment . </p>
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<p>I feel the same way about the Chillis as you about Oasis, I also feel that way about Oasis . </p> -
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In the book Enter Night theres a bit about Lars hanging out with the two twats from Oasis because he thought that where music was heading and they might like a piece of it. <br><br><img src="http://www.h2g2.com/h2g2/skins/Alabaster/images/Smilies/f_facepalm.gif" alt="f_facepalm.gif"></p></blockquote>
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Fuck i hate Lars. Have done ever since my hundrrd-odd views of both chapters of "a year and a half in the life of"<br><br>
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<p>Billy Gould is a superb bass player, was he the first to do slap and pop bass in hard rock or metal or whatever fmn are? Interesting they can't stand each other mostly and live in and record in different parts of the US . </p>
<p>I think Harris does the bulk of the songwriting too, I have them on the stereo in my ute at the moment . </p>
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<p>I feel the same way about the Chillis as you about Oasis, I also feel that way about Oasis . </p>
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<p>Either him or Flea would have but as I said I rate Trujillo better than either of them.</p>
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<p>I thought FNM still lived in the Bay area of California. Interestingly I follow Chuck Mosely ( their first singer ) on FB and he had to start a give a little page after falling on hard times. He was cool and did some really good songs he just had the misfortune to get fired for being drunk and then being replaced by the guy with the best rock voice of that generation ( with all due respect to Jeff Buckley and Chris Cornell )</p> -
<p>I read that about them all living apart a while ago, Mosely was a short order cook or something at one stage wasn't he? Mosely had shitty luck but this guys was worse I reckon <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/magazine/evermans-war.html?_r=0'>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/magazine/evermans-war.html?_r=0</a></p>
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<p>I read that about them all living apart a while ago, Mosely was a short order cook or something at one stage wasn't he? Mosely had shitty luck but this guys was worse I reckon <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/magazine/evermans-war.html?_r=0'>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/02/magazine/evermans-war.html?_r=0</a></p>
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<p>Cheers for posting that - although I don't think his luck was bad, turns out he wound up doing what he really wanted to do.</p>
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<p>Either him or Flea would have but as I said I rate Trujillo better than either of them.</p>
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<p>I thought FNM still lived in the Bay area of California. Interestingly I follow Chuck Mosely ( their first singer ) on FB and he had to start a give a little page after falling on hard times. He was cool and did some really good songs he just had the misfortune to get fired for being drunk and then being replaced by the guy with the best rock voice of that generation ( with all due respect to Jeff Buckley and Chris Cornell )</p>
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<p>Misfortune? The story of Mosley is a classic story of making your own luck.</p>
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<p>He's been lucky in later life that the existing members of FNM have held no hard feelings. He lost his shit just as the band was starting to break out and thus missed out on the best years. Gould & Bottum are the driving force of that band and always have been. Gould is one of, if not, the most innovative and respected bass players to exist. Find any decent bass player in a band and they will all say influenced by Gould, without exception. Bottum is the glue that runs the whole show.</p> -
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<p>Ian Dury and the Blockheads - Fucking Ada</p>
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<p>This would have been fucking awesome to listen to live with the crowd joining in</p>
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<p>Fucken hell SammyC, another thing we have in common from our youths....I also sang along to Ian Dury when my old man played it on car trips. To this day I could probably sing the entire "Lord Upminster" album if someone played if even though I haven't heard it since the late 80s ! </p>
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<p>Continuing the discussion on Bass players ........Soho radio 2 hour special on the career Norman Watt-Roy (bassist for the blockheads)<span style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">. </span></p>
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<p>Misfortune? <strong>The story of Mosley is a classic story of making your own luck.</strong></p>
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<p>He's been lucky in later life that the existing members of FNM have held no hard feelings. He lost his shit just as the band was starting to break out and thus missed out on the best years. Gould & Bottum are the driving force of that band and always have been. Gould is one of, if not, the most innovative and respected bass players to exist. Find any decent bass player in a band and they will all say influenced by Gould, without exception. Bottum is the glue that runs the whole show.</p>
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<p>Yeah I agree with that, I didn't word it particularly well. Like I said, he was very good but Patton is next level. Perhaps Gould is overlooked a bit because he is a bit less flashy and lower profile than Flea ( who although has a personality that would grate is still a fantastic player ) I rate Gould but is he THAT good ?</p>
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<p>Les Claypool tried out for Metallica after Burton died , he would have been a weird fit.</p>
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<p>Yep that's a well known story. Metallica tactfully said he was "too good" for them and it's true, he's another fucken awesome player and I do enjoy some of Primus's stuff but to be honest they probably thought he was too quirky and weird. ( Yet they still got Trujillo who did some odd stuff with Infectious Grooves and Suicidal tendancies )</p>
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<p>Hammett and Hetfields respective guitar leads in "One" showcase how good those two were in their prime, fucken awesome, yet distinct, playing and Lars, dickhead that he is, could do that machine gun metal drumming as good as anyone. I've read that Lars has regressed as he has gotten older and years on the road playing the same stuff has meant he has little time to actually practice and maintain his skills.</p> -
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<p>Yeah I agree with that, I didn't word it particularly well. Like I said, he was very good but Patton is next level. Perhaps Gould is overlooked a bit because he is a bit less flashy and lower profile than Flea ( who although has a personality that would grate is still a fantastic player ) I rate Gould but is he THAT good ?</p>
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<p>I'm not bass player, but every single bassist, without exception, name him as an influence. I suspect he was more innovative & talented though, than being actually viewed as an incredible amazing bass player.</p>
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<p>Hammett and Hetfields respective guitar leads in "One" showcase how good those two were in their prime, fucken awesome, yet distinct, playing and Lars, dickhead that he is, could do that machine gun metal drumming as good as anyone. I've read that Lars has regressed as he has gotten older and years on the road playing the same stuff has meant he has little time to actually practice and maintain his skills.</p>
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<p>Yeah, Lars Ulrich drumming probably creates more disagreement amongst musicians than anything else. He says himself everything that you've written above. I think the more time has gone on, the more he's just settled into being the Metallica drummer, and playing whats required to work with Hetfield. As lets face it, even though Hetfield and Ulrich sort of "own the band", it's in a Angus and Malcom Young sort of way.</p> -
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<p>I'm not bass player, but every single bassist, without exception, name him as an influence. I suspect he was more innovative & talented though, than being actually viewed as an incredible amazing bass player.</p>
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<p>Yeah, Lars Ulrich drumming probably creates more disagreement amongst musicians than anything else. He says himself everything that you've written above. I think the more time has gone on, the more he's just settled into being the Metallica drummer, and playing whats required to work with Hetfield. As lets face it, even though Hetfield and Ulrich sort of "own the band", it's in a Angus and Malcom Young sort of way.</p>
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<p>Apparently Charlie Watts is an incredible Jazz drummer but "sold his soul" to be in one of the biggest bands of all time and pound out some pretty basic stuff for over 50 years. Ginger Baker has said he hates the Stones but Watts sends him tickets to their shows whenever they're in town knowing full well they'll end up in the bin....but even Baker admits Watts is the best muso in the group by far which is excellent praise from a legend who doesn't have a nice word to say about anyone. ( do catch "Beware of Mr Baker" if you get a chance, aamazing doco )</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="608670" data-time="1472026778"><p>Misfortune? The story of Mosley is a classic story of making your own luck.<br> <br>He's been lucky in later life that the existing members of FNM have held no hard feelings. He lost his shit just as the band was starting to break out and thus missed out on the best years. Gould & Bottum are the driving force of that band and always have been. Gould is one of, if not, the most innovative and respected bass players to exist. Find any decent bass player in a band and they will all say influenced by Gould, without exception. Bottum is the glue that runs the whole show.</p></blockquote>Incidentally, FNM re-released We Care Alot earlier this week which has some new mixes.<br>I was never really big into Mosley era FNM but it was cool watching them live stream their Mosley reunion the other day over Facebook. Lots of complaints from Patton era fans in the feed though. Pretty cool seeing selfies of Patton and Mosley together.<br>I've never really considered Gould a great bass player but I appreciate what he does do very much and he's one of my favourites.<br>I consider him a fantastic song writer though and its his understanding of tension and release that's such a key part of FNMs sound.
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This came on youtube after a D.O.C song I was listening to. Had literally never heard of this song until now. MC Ren, Eazy E, Dr Dre, Digital Underground, Ice T, Tone Loc and other West Coast rappers. The thing I really dig about this track and N.W.A tracks of the same era is the funky bass line. <br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="
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Given your avatar is the beats rhymes and life album cover mate (criminally underrated album in my opinion) thought you'd appreciate this mate :)<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="https://soundcloud.com/wax-poetics/a-tribe-called-quest-beats-rhymes-and-life-20th-anniversary-mixtape-mixed-by-chris-read">https://soundcloud.com/wax-poetics/a-tribe-called-quest-beats-rhymes-and-life-20th-anniversary-mixtape-mixed-by-chris-read</a><br><br>
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<p>Incidentally, FNM re-released We Care Alot earlier this week which has some new mixes.<br>
I was never really big into Mosley era FNM but it was cool watching them live stream their Mosley reunion the other day over Facebook. Lots of complaints from Patton era fans in the feed though. Pretty cool seeing selfies of Patton and Mosley together.<br>
I've never really considered Gould a great bass player but I appreciate what he does do very much and he's one of my favourites.<br>
I consider him a fantastic song writer though and its his understanding of tension and release that's such a key part of FNMs sound.</p>
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<p>Mosely era FNM did a cool song called "Annes Song" so would have loved to see Patton and the boys do to that what they did to 'We Care A Lot" ( ie make an awesome song EVEN better ).</p>
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<p>I have heard Gould is a real driver in the band sounding as good and as diverse as they do.</p>
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<p>I got you. Split enz at an airport bar in Dublin, go figure.</p>
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<p>righto</p>
