Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.
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<p>He was simply sensational for the Blues. World class at Super level, outstanding going forward and punishing on defence. We missed him massively when he left.</p>
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<p>The minimum standard for a squad All Black - which he was.</p> -
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<p>Sean "I wouldn't pick one Wallaby in my ANZAC side" Fitzpatrick would probably agree with you :)</p>
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<p>There's a few would make a contest of it - Folau, Warren Whitely, Itoje, Hartley among others - but even with bias it's not too far away from being a statement of fact. :)</p> -
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The big thing for Ice was confidence. He always came across as a shy reserved sort of character - and that's fine and plenty of ABs have been like that - but that appeared to follow him on to the field.<br><br>
When he was aggressive and high on confidence he played accordingly. But then we saw games where he would drop a ball and then go into his shell and then he'd drop another. And the fans were out for blood. It happens all the time.</p>
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<p>i agree with this, and further think it's the reason why picking him so young before he was ready, and consequently fucking his confidence was stupid. i know the consensus around here is that any criticism of henry is out of bounds, but that was fucking dumb. </p> -
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<p>There's a few would make a contest of it - Folau, Warren Whitely, Itoje, Hartley among others - but even with bias it's not too far away from being a statement of fact. :)</p>
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<p>My world XV on last outings form : Brown - Smith Joseph Moala North - Barrett Smith - Vunipola Haskell Kaino - Retallick Itoje - Franks Coles Vunipola.</p>
<p>Moala is here because there are no other standouts at 2nd Five. Farrell is a good goalkicker but he brings nothing on attack while Hernandez is error prone and Jamie Roberts a shadow of his former self.</p> -
You lost me at Brown
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Folau was better than brown. Smith was better than brown. Dagg was better than brown in June (the last time brown played). Brown hasn't been great in a while.
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Ok, I'm officially lost. I thought this thread would be full of posters venting about Parsons being called up but despite the title it seems to be all about Winger/conspiracy and Davidav/Toeava. <br>
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Who cares? Aus are rubbish. Mid-canterbury by 25
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<p>Ok, I'm officially lost. I thought this thread would be full of posters venting about Parsons being called up but despite the title it seems to be all about Winger/conspiracy and Davidav/Toeava.<br>
Any chance of posts about what is actually happening pre test?</p>
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<p>If you are gonna be like that, here is Parsons on RS, about 7.30 mins in</p>
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<p>http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.24-17.00.00-S.mp3</p>
<p>http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.08.24-17.15.00-S.mp3</p> -
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Ok, I'm officially lost. I thought this thread would be full of posters venting about Parsons being called up but despite the title it seems to be all about Winger/conspiracy and Davidav/Toeava. <br>
Any chance of posts about what is actually happening pre test?</p></blockquote>You've hit the nail on the head.<br><br>
I really hope they go ALB & Fekitoa in the midfield, but fear they'll fall back on the more experienced cough cough Tamanivalu.<br><br>
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<p>Ok, I'm officially lost. I thought this thread would be full of posters venting about Parsons being called up but despite the title it seems to be all about Winger/conspiracy and Davidav/Toeava.<br>
Any chance of posts about what is actually happening pre test?</p>
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<p>When's the team named?</p>
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<p>Folau's is in poor form right now. Dagg played very well in the third test vs Wales but was a bit disappointing vs Australia. So who else ?</p>
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<p>Its hard to tell what sort of form he's in, the Aussie backline had no ball & no structure. He was in very good form v the Poms, was the one Aussie who genuinely looked likely to tear them apart. I assume he'll be at centre this week maybe with Quade at 15 (?), so we'll get a better view of him. I'd still have him at 15 if her were an AB, with Ben on the wing. Hell, I'd be grooming him for 13 if he were a kiwi. He's a devestaingly good runner.</p>
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<p>Brown was barely clinging on the the England shirt this year & most thought he should have been dropped</p>
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<p>It's an interesting thought bubble to surmise what other nations players might fare if they spent some time in a Super Rugby franchise and the All Blacks environment.</p>
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<p>Haskell had a season of it and couple of months ago single handedly destroyed the Australian backrow. I'd love to see Itoje have a couple of seasons, he's an utter superstar & has great hands, getting him in an environment where he has to catch & pass 20 times a game would help him no end.</p> -
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<p>Its hard to tell what sort of form he's in, the Aussie backline had no ball & no structure. He was in very good form v the Poms, was the one Aussie who genuinely looked likely to tear them apart. I assume he'll be at centre this week maybe with Quade at 15 (?), so we'll get a better view of him. I'd still have him at 15 if her were an AB, with Ben on the wing. Hell, I'd be grooming him for 13 if he were a kiwi. He's a devestaingly good runner.</p>
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<p>Brown was barely clinging on the the England shirt this year & most thought he should have been dropped</p>
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<p>Haskell had a season of it and couple of months ago single handedly destroyed the Australian backrow. I'd love to see Itoje have a couple of seasons, he's an utter superstar & has great hands, getting him in an environment where he has to catch & pass 20 times a game would help him no end.</p>
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<p>Folau's defence isn't good enough right now to be centre. He would definitely waltz into the All Blacks though.</p> -
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Any chance of posts about what is actually happening pre test?</p></blockquote>
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We got sidetracked! Toeava s a fun topic always seems like people were watching different games when he played for ABs, I always think that the final selections were pretty conclusive and at best he under-achieved for whatever reason. I think Davidav had short end of stick and had fair points. <br><br>
Back to topic : right now I think Folau might be only Wallaby worthy of AB jersey ( on the wing) and probably forced us to kick less than we would have preferred. That said I think Wallabies usually lose the midfield battle to ABs and if I were Cheika I would throw caution to wind and play Ashley-Cooper 12, Folau 13 and Cooper 15. -
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Back to topic : right now I think Folau might be only Wallaby worthy of AB jersey ( on the wing) and probably forced us to kick less than we would have preferred. That said I think Wallabies usually lose the midfield battle to ABs and if I were Cheika I would throw caution to wind and play Ashley-Cooper 12, Folau 13 and Cooper 15.</p>
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<p>Deckchairs on the Titanic.</p>
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<p>Aussie forward pack is powder puff. One world class forward (Pocock if he plays his rightful position of 7). Fardie and Hooper have their moments, but Pooper is a failure. Dreadful 2nd row, and while the front row is OK, it's nothing to write home about.</p> -
Team named:<br><br><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.allblacks.com/News/29646/all-blacks-team-named-for-second-bledisloe-cup-test">http://www.allblacks.com/News/29646/all-blacks-team-named-for-second-bledisloe-cup-test</a><br><br>
Congratulations to Anton Lienert-Brown! -
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<p>Congratulations to Anton Lienert-Brown!</p>
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<p>We went 250 All Blacks and 26 years without a two dads, now we've had 4 within the span of the last 35 new All Blacks.</p>
