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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    #1098

    @frugby said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @frugby said in Super Rugby 2024:

    Fun fact of the day: Only one play with 250+ minutes in Super Rugby this season has a 100% tackle completion (According to Opta)... can you name him?

    Answer: Pari Pari Parkinson (37/37)

    I am more shocked that he has played at least 250 mins

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  • GrooterG Offline
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    #1099

    The Reds the big improvers this yr. took the Canes to Golden point, Victory against the Chiefs, held the Highlanders scoreless, were with the Blues to the dying minute & yesterday after a quarter of a century defeated the Saders in Chch

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    replied to Grooter on last edited by
    #1100

    @Grooter amazing what happens when you appoint a proven coach

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    wrote on last edited by Canes4life
    #1101

    I've tried to do some crystal ball glazing with Super Rugby coming to the business end of the comp. Most teams are still in with a shot of the playoffs, therefore I have broken down what games each team has left and how many points I think they'll end up with.

    Hurricanes: currently 1st on 42 points
    Remaining games: Blues (A), MP (H), Chiefs (A), Highlanders (H)
    Predicted finish: 1st (57 points)


    Blues: currently 2nd on 41 points
    Remaining games: Hurricanes (H), Highlanders (H), Crusaders (A), Chiefs (H)
    Predicted finish: 2nd (55 points)


    Brumbies: currently 3rd on 35 points
    Remaining games: Waratahs (A), Crusaders (H), Rebels (H) Force (A)
    Predicted finish: 3rd (53 points)


    Chiefs: currently 4th on 33 points
    Remaining games: Moana (A), Rebels (A), Hurricanes (H), Blues (A)
    Predicted finish: 4th (48 points)


    Reds: currently 5th on 27 points
    Remaining games: Rebels (H), Drua (A), Force (H), Waratahs (A)
    Predicted finish: 5th (41 points)


    Rebels: currently 6th on 24 points
    Remaining games: Reds (A), Chiefs (H), Brumbies (A), Drua (A)
    Predicted finish: 8th (25 points)


    Highlanders: currently 7th on 19 points
    Remaining games: Crusaders (H), Blues (A), Drua (H), Hurricanes (A)
    Predicted finish: 9th (24 points)


    Fijian Drua: currently 8th on 17 points
    Remaining games: Force (A), Reds (H), Highlanders (A), Rebels (H)
    Predicted finish: 6th (27 points)


    Moana Pasifika: currently 9th on 14 points
    Remaining games: Chiefs (H), Hurricanes (A), Waratahs (H), Crusaders (A)
    Predicted finish: 11th (14 points)


    Crusaders: currently 10th (13 points)
    Remaining games: Highlanders (A), Brumbies (A), Blues (H), MP (H)
    Predicted finish: 10th (23 points)


    Waratahs: currently 11th (12 points)
    Remaining games: Brumbies (H), Force (A), MP (A), Reds (H)
    Predicted finish: 7th (26 points)


    Force: currently 12th (10 points)
    Remaining games: Drua (H), Waratahs (H), Reds (A), Brumbies (H)
    Predicted finish: 12th (14 points)

    Predicted final table after round 15

    1. Hurricanes
    2. Blues
    3. Brumbies
    4. Chiefs
    5. Reds
    6. Drua
    7. Waratahs
    8. Rebels
    9. Highlanders
    10. Crusaders
    11. Moana Pasifika
    12. Force
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  • canefanC Offline
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    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
    #1102

    @Canes4life is our top of the table ranking dependent on us winning in Auckland next weekend?

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    replied to canefan on last edited by Canes4life
    #1103

    @canefan I’ve got us winning in Auckland but losing in Waikato. Just a gut feeling. I feel like we’ll win one of those games so either or.

    My reason for the Canes beating the Blues is I think the forwards will cancel each other out. I had the Canes and Blues backs pretty square as well but now with Reiko Ioane ruled out that sways it towards the Canes for me.

    If I had to match up both teams for that game by position it would be as follows:
    Props: adv Canes
    Hooker: adv Blues
    Locks: adv Blues
    Loose forwards: adv Canes
    Halfback: adv Canes
    First five: adv Blues
    Centres: adv Canes
    Outsides: even

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    Bones
    replied to Canes4life on last edited by
    #1104

    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

    crystal ball glazing

    Gold

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    Canes4life
    replied to Bones on last edited by
    #1105

    @Bones haha oops

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1106

    The Reds are good example of how much more competitive this year is

    They've played all NZ sides once. They've beaten the Chiefs, Highlanders & Crusaders. They pushed the other two NZ sides. The Canes needed extra time to win and the Blues won the game with a late surge

    The reason they are only in 5th is because they've been tipped over by sides they'd be expected to beat - the Force & Moana Pasifika.

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #1107

    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

    The Reds are good example of how much more competitive this year is

    They've played all NZ sides once. They've beaten the Chiefs, Highlanders & Crusaders. They pushed the other two NZ sides. The Canes needed extra time to win and the Blues won the game with a late surge

    The reason they are only in 5th is because they've been tipped over by sides they'd be expected to beat - the Force & Moana Pasifika.

    I have mentioned this before, and I am still wondering- is the closer comp this year a sign of stronger Aus teams or weaker NZ teams? Probably a bit of both.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by Duluth
    #1108

    @Crazy-Horse

    Canes stronger
    Blues marginally stronger
    Chiefs maybe slightly weaker? I don't think they've peaked yet though
    Highlanders the same or marginally stronger

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    wrote on last edited by
    #1109

    Highlander individuals might be stronger....but as a team im not so sure

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  • Crazy HorseC Offline
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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #1110

    @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @Crazy-Horse

    Canes stronger
    Blues marginally stronger
    Chiefs maybe slightly weaker? I don't think they've peaked yet though
    Highlanders the same or marginally stronger

    Yeah can't really argue with that.

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    replied to Crazy Horse on last edited by ruggabee
    #1111

    @Crazy-Horse said in Super Rugby 2024:

    I have mentioned this before, and I am still wondering- is the closer comp this year a sign of stronger Aus teams or weaker NZ teams? Probably a bit of both.

    This is something the Aussie revival fallating media drum up every season in an attempt to drive greater interest in the comp, this cope/denial has been going strong for the last 3 years since SRP formed. Bargaining and pleading with themselves that this long awaited Australian rugby resurgance is just around the corner.

    They jump on every single opportunity to push the narrative that the 'gap is closing' after inconsequential solitary upsets like Canberra where the Canes players clearly hadn't turned up mentally and had rotated their squad after going to Fiji, yet there's absolute crickets after those demoralising record defeats to the Blues (46-7) and Chiefs (46-12) respectively.

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    replied to ruggabee on last edited by
    #1112

    @ruggabee said in Super Rugby 2024:

    They jump on every single opportunity to push the narrative that the 'gap is closing' after inconsequential solitary upsets like Canberra where the Canes players clearly hadn't turned up mentally and had rotated their squad after going to Fiji, yet there's absolute crickets after those demoralising record defeats to the Blues (46-7) and Chiefs (46-12) respectively.

    I'm not sure what makes Canes loss to Brumbies inconsequential.

    If Canes lose on Saturday that means they lose top spot. Part of the reason why would be because they lost to Brumbies in Canberra.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Duluth
    wrote on last edited by
    #1113

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350269573/super-rugby-pacific-power-rankings-talk-crusaders-resurgence-was-always-premature

    Stuff's 'power rankings'

    For some reason it's not Knowler writing them this week

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  • YeetyaahY Offline
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    Yeetyaah
    replied to Duluth on last edited by
    #1114

    @Duluth Crusaders ranked too high.

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    ruggabee
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by ruggabee
    #1115

    @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:

    @ruggabee said in Super Rugby 2024:

    They jump on every single opportunity to push the narrative that the 'gap is closing' after inconsequential solitary upsets like Canberra where the Canes players clearly hadn't turned up mentally and had rotated their squad after going to Fiji, yet there's absolute crickets after those demoralising record defeats to the Blues (46-7) and Chiefs (46-12) respectively.

    I'm not sure what makes Canes loss to Brumbies inconsequential.

    If Canes lose on Saturday that means they lose top spot. Part of the reason why would be because they lost to Brumbies in Canberra.

    I meant inconsequential towards supporting this narrative being pushed that the Australian teams are 'closing the gap'. The Hurricanes result was much less to do with the Brumbies, it was the complacency and mentality of a Hurricanes side that had won a franchise record number of matches on the trot and were simply going through the motions at that point, they had clearly checked out mentally - add to the fact GIO stadium is a terrible uninspiring venue to play at, the Hurricanes haven't won a game there for 7 years, and even the season Hurricanes won the competition (2016) they lost 53-10 because Canberra stadium is a depressingly negative shithole of a venue that seemingly drains the energy and enthusiasm out of our players.

    This (27-19) result was an insignificant one because the Hurricanes were going to lose that week or the next, it was simply a matter of probability and the variables of consistent weekly preparation and maintaining consistency in backing up in high performance sport over a long period of time without a drop-off, it said very little about the Brumbies, they got fortunate to exploit a mentally checked out Canes team. It was circumstantial and not an accurate reflection of where the Brumbies sit.

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    Kiwiwomble
    wrote on last edited by
    #1116

    this is the arrogance kiwis get accused of, anything but give credit to other teams, when NZ teams punish teams for making mistakes we call it ruthless....when someone does it too us they were lucky to take advantage

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  • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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    Daffy Jaffy
    wrote on last edited by
    #1117

    Waratahs secure ex-Wallabies and ex-Pumas props on SOS loan deals

    Waratahs secure ex-Wallabies and ex-Pumas props on SOS loan deals

    The NSW Waratahs have secured former Wallabies prop Pone Fa'amausili and ex-Argentine international Enrique Pieretto on loan deals.

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