Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="607799" data-time="1471770901"><p>
What the hell did he have to thank them for?</p></blockquote>
Nowt. <br><br>
But in Phil Kearns' crazy world, you should always thank your opponents after spanking them 😉 -
Cheika didn't mean what he said but he's secure in himself not to tell the truth which was that his players didn't turn up. You give that message in private.<br>
Not the first time he's publically assumed resposibility to save his boys. Classy<br><br><br>
That overhead camera angle of scrums, to my one eye just showed yellow number 1 boring in on an angle yet refs never seeem to see it. Can't the tmo give a heads up?<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="607803" data-time="1471771569"><p>
Nowt. <br><br>
But in Phil Kearns' crazy world, you should always thank your opponents after spanking them 😉</p></blockquote>
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I wonder if sits there waiting for " thanks dad for buying a Porsche but being to cheap to option a reversing camera" ? -
23 man rugby pretty much rules out front rowers from captaincy these days..<br><br>
So no loss at all re-jigging it away from Moore. He's on the sideline for 40% of every game anyway. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="607783" data-time="1471767392"><p>
Who is responsible for preparing the Wallabies' mental focus a test Vs New Zealand?<br><br>
That would be their coach Michaek Cheika. Speaks volumes if he blames his players when he had over a month to work out his best side and prepare them for taking on the mighty All Blacks.</p></blockquote>
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Actually he's taken the blame for that. But I disagree. A coach can't make you think a certain way. Players need to take responsibility for being motivated. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Gunner" data-cid="607794" data-time="1471769022"><p>
I don't buy the crap from Cheika about him not getting the players up mentally. <br>
They're professional rugby players who have been picked to represent their country against the best team in the world. If they can't get themselves up for that, they shouldn't fucking be there and he should be blaming himself for selecting the wrong players.<br><br>
Good on him for trying to take the heat off his players, but it's utter bullshit.</p></blockquote>
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Watched the first half again , thought I read earlier in the thread negative comments re Fekitoa ,I thought he played well .
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<p>I wouldn't blame the captain but the forwards esp Moore and Foley. Foley, were you playing? Certainly not playmaking. I thought Foley was going to be a decent international 10 for the Wallabies last year, now not so convinced.</p>
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<p>If anyone knows of a feed of the whole match please let me know. Was working all day yesterday and studiously managed to avoid everything about the game. `sat down at 11 last night to watch the recording I had set but despite the recording showing I was watching the TRC it was of some fucken tennis instead. Virgin have just pushed through a software update and I think that may have screwed it!</p>
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Yesterday's win doesn't put the England 3-0 series win in perspective. New Zealand are the number one team in the world for practically the last decade and rarely lose games.<br><br>
If Argentina spank Australia home and away, then it might put the England series in perspective. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="reprobate" data-cid="607772" data-time="1471763079"><p>i agree, moore isn't playing as well as he was before becoming captain, he relates badly to the refs, and they always sub him off which is not ideal.<br>
please god though don't give it to bono, the less interviews with him the better.<br><br>
probably an appropriate time to reiterate how shit kuridrani has been for a long time now; surely adam 2 dads to centre.<br>
you can't afford to carry a guy like simmons. he's shit in the lineouts, and you can't pick a lock just because he scrums reasonably well and doesn't do anything else. sio, kepu, slipper, moore are all good enough, likewise Hoopah and pocock - but the pooper will only work if you have size and mongrel in the rest of your pack.<br><br>
for us it's all been said really, bloody good performance. crotty was excellent before injury, should be a few people on here reconsidering opinions i think.</p></blockquote>
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I actually think Simmons is a good lineout lock. There were two problems I saw from my armchair, poor throwing by Moore and lack of options. <br><br>
The Pocock and Hooper duo will get found out at set piece when the opposition has 4 excellent lineout exponents like Whitelock, Rettalick, Read and Kaino. -
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<p>Yesterday's win doesn't put the England 3-0 series win in perspective. New Zealand are the number one team in the world for practically the last decade and rarely lose games.<br><br>
If Argentina spank Australia home and away, then it might put the England series in perspective.</p>
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<p>I think you can draw some reference. When England won 3 zip it was accredited more to England being good than Oz being shite. Now Oz, in a match they target every year with their best prep window and have recently been quite tough in, have shown themselves to be pants (even if it was against the best side in the world).</p>
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<p>I would back England to beat Argentina any day so your analogy is a bit off.</p>
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<p>I'm not saying that England didn't deserve the wins or that Oz handed it to them just that I think this result does show an indication of the state Oz rugby is currently in.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="607840" data-time="1471799371"><p>
I think you can draw some reference. When England won 3 zip it was accredited more to England being good than Oz being shite. Now Oz, in a match they target every year with their best prep window and have recently been quite tough in, have shown themselves to be pants (even if it was against the best side in the world).<br><br>
I would back England to beat Argentina any day so your analogy is a bit off.<br><br>
I'm not saying that England didn't deserve the wins or that Oz handed it to them just that I think this result does show an indication of the state Oz rugby is currently in.</p></blockquote>
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No I don't accept that line of argument. NZ are expected to win a match against Australia - home or away. And they win them regularly. The margin of victory is substantial undoubtedly but the victory is not surprising. <br><br>
Nonetheless, it's when a lower ranked team achieves a similar outcome against Australia that England's series victory might be more comparatively assessed. <br><br>
And you make my point when you say that you'd back England over Argentina any day. So if Argentina were to do a double over the Wallabies, it would put England's series win in perspective. <br><br>
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<p>If anyone knows of a feed of the whole match please let me know. Was working all day yesterday and studiously managed to avoid everything about the game. `sat down at 11 last night to watch the recording I had set but despite the recording showing I was watching the TRC it was of some fucken tennis instead. Virgin have just pushed through a software update and I think that may have screwed it!</p>
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<p>Close your eyes and just imagine it was any of the following recent games between the teams:</p>
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<p>Auckland, 2015</p>
<p>Auckland, 2014</p>
<p>Sydney, 2013</p>
<p>Auckland, 2011 (both times).</p>
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<p>Then simply change a few ABs around and add in some extra shitness from Straya. Bingo.</p>
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<p>It's pretty much the same shit.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Pot Hale" data-cid="607858" data-time="1471810218">
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<p>No I don't accept that line of argument. NZ are expected to win a match against Australia - home or away. And they win them regularly. The margin of victory is substantial undoubtedly but the victory is not surprising.<br><br>
Nonetheless, it's when a lower ranked team achieves a similar outcome against Australia that England's series victory might be more comparatively assessed.<br><br>
And you make my point when you say that you'd back England over Argentina any day. So if Argentina were to do a double over the Wallabies, it would put England's series win in perspective.<br><br>
Hope that makes sense.</p>
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<p>It was a record defeat at home for the Wallabies.</p>
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<p>That is significant.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="cgrant" data-cid="607869" data-time="1471814983"><p>
Australia being so weak is not good for rugby.<br>
I hope they will come back strongly very soon. The problem is : with which players ?</p></blockquote>
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"Which systems?" is the bigger question. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="pakman" data-cid="607880" data-time="1471816513"><p>Well they could start by picking a team which will win its lineouts.Those two in a row lost from the All Black 22 were the start of the rot around 25 minutes in.</p></blockquote>
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And those players are.....
