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    Frank
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    It'll be horrible if a knee injury fucks him - Roigard is one of the most obvious future stars we've had in a long time.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Mate who knows his stuff reckons Roigard is probably patella tendon and if it's a full rupture, then we've seen the best of Roigard already.

    We've already seen one halfback fucked by a knee injury. A second in three years would be a pretty bitter pill to swallow.

    If you mean Fakatava I think physically he is starting to look better.

    Agree, but I still think if you compare his speed pre and post, it isn't the same.

    That said, touch wood, I think Fakatava's game against the Canes was probably the best I've seen to him since the game against the Crusaders where he did his knee. There were a couple of box kicks that flew too long, but outside of that, he was nearly perfect, and provided a real threat with his running game... and crucially his decision making to run/pass was really good.

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    @Frank he’s got All Black legend written all over him aye. Just hope this injury doesn’t prevent him from reaching his peak.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank he’s got All Black legend written all over him aye. Just hope this injury doesn’t prevent him from reaching his peak.

    I think you need to ease up on the fluffing just a tad

    He’s showed some good stuff alright but lets not forget he’s played fuck all tests and couldn’t get past Finlay Christie of all people in the games that mattered last year.

    Far too early to throw words like “legend” around.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Frank he’s got All Black legend written all over him aye. Just hope this injury doesn’t prevent him from reaching his peak.

    I think you need to ease up on the fluffing just a tad

    He’s showed some good stuff alright but lets not forget he’s played fuck all tests and couldn’t get past Finlay Christie of all people in the games that mattered last year.

    Far too early to throw words like “legend” around.

    Im saying by the end of his career. He’s clearly class already. And who’s fault was it that he wasn’t selected for the final? FOZZIE THE CLOWN.

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    I didn't see the injury on TV but am hoping that both cruciate ligaments (PCL & ACL) and cartilage menisci are ok. These are the main events for knee stability.

    The media keep on saying the Patella Tendon could be damaged (attaches Patella to Tibial bone) but am hoping this isn't the case as is a long recovery.

    I'm hoping the lateral and medial collateral ligaments connecting Femur to Tibial bones are ok. These heal ok usually.

    It could be a sideways Patella flick off tearing the fascial retinaculum and joint capsule. Joint stability is maintained and this can heal.

    ACL damage is the nasty one and is usually caused by knee hyper extension. I still remember MJ v Argentina

    Praying for a good outcome

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    @BerniesCorner Amen. He is such a key player.

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    I rate TJP above Finlay Christie.

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    @BerniesCorner

    🤞

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    @BerniesCorner

    It didn't look at all good, but not as bad as the MJ injury or the Gerald Willhite or Joe Thiesmann ones in NFL or the David Busst one in football (it took 7 minutes to clear the blood from the pitch after that last one).

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    He had 2 ACL injuries didn’t he?

    The one thing that takes the most time with ACL is speed to return.

    It took Virgil Van Dyk at 18 months to finally get back to the player he was before his ACL and a large part of that was regaining speed. If you don’t have the speed you once had, you lose confidence and have to change your game.

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    Bones
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    @DaGrubster been there done that! In my early twenties I needed to change my running style due to chronic injury - basically running on my calves when I was lucky to be 70kg wasn't the same as when I was 90kh. One of the hardest things I've ever done.

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    @Bones

    30 years ago it was a career ending injury wasn’t it?

    It’s generally considered the worst injury for a sportsman to suffer.

    I have had my fair share of knee injuries. You don’t realise how critical they are to everyday life until you can’t use one!! 😡

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    Incredibly sad about Roigards injury, I was really looking forward to seeing how his combination with DMac was going to go this year.
    I do hope some-one with flamboyance like Ratima steps up than us settle with someone per functionary like Christie.

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    @Windows97 Christie/ Beauden was probably going to be starting halves anyway, with Roigard of bench maybe,

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I rate TJP above Finlay Christie.

    Unfortunately your and collective TSF opinion doesn't count. I fear with MacDonald there, Christie will be their halfback.

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    I as far as I have heard the breakdown of selections are
    Ryan tight 5
    Razor LFs
    Hansen inside backs
    Holland MF
    McDonald outside backs
    With Razor and input from Wayne Smith over seeing it all.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Windows97 Christie/ Beauden was probably going to be starting halves anyway, with Roigard of bench maybe,

    Source?
    You have the inside word on Razor's thinking or imagining it?

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Windows97 Christie/ Beauden was probably going to be starting halves anyway, with Roigard of bench maybe,

    No way, Roigard would have been the top halfback hands down. If not, the coaches have rocks in their head. Christie is just so damn average, anyone with half a brain can see that.

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    Anyone keen to donate?

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