Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="606914" data-time="1471640796">
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<p>But these very players bettered the Crusaders who I assume you think deserve their place in the squad. Some of the Crusaders ABs are fairly ordinary (Dagg is only up to much except in a winning team). Ill be keen to see how Taylor goes tomorrow because last year he was ordinary when he got game time (granted not much and thank god for that).</p>
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<p>But its interesting players like both Canes locks were not considered even for the full squad. Shield was excellent at the end but this suddenly doesn't count. And I would like to see Proctor get a run at the next level. Shag is not selecting fairly. And I would be annoyed if a ex Canes coach / supporter did the same thing benefiting the Canes. Its not good. Boyd needs to have a fairly forceful discussion with Shag. Basically to cut the crap and give all players a fair go</p>
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<p>You keep spouting the same bias BS, but you arent stating specifically who should be in for who...</p>
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<p>Both canes locks, while good are surely behind Tuipulotu, or are you dropping him because he is form the Blues? Bird has been very good in the latter half of the season too.</p>
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<p>But these very players bettered the Crusaders who I assume you think deserve their place in the squad. Some of the Crusaders ABs are fairly ordinary (Dagg is only up to much except in a winning team). Ill be keen to see how Taylor goes tomorrow because last year he was ordinary when he got game time (granted not much and thank god for that).</p>
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<p>But its interesting players like both Canes locks were not considered even for the full squad. Shield was excellent at the end but this suddenly doesn't count. And I would like to see Proctor get a run at the next level. Shag is not selecting fairly. And I would be annoyed if a ex Canes coach / supporter did the same thing benefiting the Canes. Its not good. Boyd needs to have a fairly forceful discussion with Shag. Basically to cut the crap and give all players a fair go</p>
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<p>so you think james marshall who is off overseas should debut for the all blacks at fullback over dagg in an away bledisloe?</p>
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<p>taylor is only playing because coles was injured and they wanted to rest him. surely that is obvious.</p>
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<p>you think brodie and whitelock, the best locking combination in world rugby don't deserve their places? or tuipolotou who has been excellent every time he has taken the field?</p>
<p>you think shields is better than kaino? you think he is better than dixon who won the super rugby final last year? </p>
<p>proctor? really?</p>
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<p>the hurricanes success is based on coles, barrett and perenara. coles is already a 1st choice AB. barrett has jumped cruden to start. perenara has jumped kerr-barlow to the bench. that is great reward for a top season.</p>
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<p>as has already been pointed out, the canes have one more AB than they ought to, because julian savea does not deserve to be there on performance.</p> -
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as has already been pointed out, the canes have one more AB than they ought to, because julian savea does not deserve to be there on performance.</p></blockquote>
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But in all fairness would have NMS starting in if remotely fit.<br><br>
Also worth noting Hansen took a rookie NMS to the RWC over Dagg and took Savea on an apprenticeship thing on the EOYT, something they've never done, as a way of pre ordaining him for higher ho ours despite being a Hurricane. This hasn't been done for any Crusaders as best I can tell. -
<p>Steve H is under no obligation to select 'fairly'. His job is to put together a team of men who not only have the requisite skills, but complement each other on the park for the game plan they have. This TEAM has to work together, and obviously some combinations and skill sets work far better together than others.</p>
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<p>The Canes are my second team, but no way do I feel they should stack the AB's with their players. The shining stars (and not just in one game FFS) have been selected. If players continue to perform, they may get the call up to higher honours.</p>
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<p>To say Boyd should have a 'forceful discussion' with Hansen - fuck off. At this point in time, with a couple of World Cups, the world number one spot, a shitload of victories home and away, I reckon the dude knows what he is doing.</p> -
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<p>But in all fairness would have NMS starting in if remotely fit.<br><br>
Also worth noting Hansen took a rookie NMS to the RWC over Dagg and took Savea on an apprenticeship thing on the EOYT, something they've never done, as a way of pre ordaining him for higher ho ours despite being a Hurricane. This hasn't been done for any Crusaders as best I can tell.</p>
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<p>To be fair, Hansen explained Dagg's omission from the RWC squad by referring to his string of injuries and the fact that he didn't recover from his latest injury setback in time to be ready for selection. If Dagg had been fully fit last year, he might have been in the RWC squad. Not sure whether NMS would have been the one to stay at home in that situation though. They might have left Naholo in NZ. #wewillneverknow</p> -
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<p>Steve H is under no obligation to select 'fairly'. His job is to put together a team of men who not only have the requisite skills, but complement each other on the park for the game plan they have. This TEAM has to work together, and obviously some combinations and skill sets work far better together than others.</p>
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<p>The Canes are my second team, but no way do I feel they should stack the AB's with their players. The shining stars (and not just in one game FFS) have been selected. If players continue to perform, they may get the call up to higher honours.</p>
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<p><strong>To say Boyd should have a 'forceful discussion' with Hansen - fuck off.</strong> At this point in time, with a couple of World Cups, the world number one spot, a shitload of victories home and away, I reckon the dude knows what he is doing.</p>
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<p>Do Hansen & co even talk to Super Rugby coaches about All Black selections? Why would they have any input other than updating Hansen about a players physical and mental fitness at the time selection decisions have to be made?</p> -
Winger is far and away the best troll on here. You fullas can't help but bite.
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<p>Either underhandedness by the Wobs or betting?</p>
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<p>Who has the most to gain? I just don't see what a bookie would get out of it, short of betting on team composition ..... so that leaves......?</p> -
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<p>Who has the most to gain? I just don't see what a bookie would get out of it, short of betting on team composition ..... so that leaves......?</p>
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<p>This guy - look at the ear piece! He's missing it so much he bugged the fucking room!</p> -
This isn't Rooty Hill RSL where they are staying, I'm sure there have been many commercially sensitive meetings held there in the past month. Perhaps it is left over from that.<br><br>
The fact they were suspicious after RWC, brought the equipment this time and then found it this time though is very suspicious. No idea why they contacted the ARU should've gone straight to the AFP. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="barbarian" data-cid="606954" data-time="1471650132"><p>ABs might have missed a trick here - should have left the mic in the room and held sham team meetings all week.<br><br>
"We're going for the element of surprise this week boys - it's grubber kicks all day and Richie's coming back!"</p></blockquote>
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Maybe they did, and got the story held until today for more theatre... -
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<p>Winger is far and away the best troll on here. You fullas can't help but bite.</p>
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<p>if only that were that simple...</p> -
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<p>If Winger were a better troll he should be saying the Canes coach should be AB coach. Hell, everytime a super rugby side wins, just make that super rugby coach the AB coach. It isn't like international rugby is different to super rugby and that combinitions can't gel into expert reliable combos overnight. Oh no. In fact, make Winger coach of the ABs<span style="font-size:8px;">. That would solve all the current problems and make far larger and more spectacular new ones...</span></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stargazer" data-cid="606973" data-time="1471653816">
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<p>Do Hansen & co even talk to Super Rugby coaches about All Black selections? Why would they have any input other than updating Hansen about a players physical and mental fitness at the time selection decisions have to be made?</p>
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<p>perhaps that's how Ofa became an AB.....Shag had too many meetings with ultra-optimistic Sir JK</p> -
Stuff just leaked a transcript of the phone call between Boyd and Hanson.<br><br>
" hello Steve? Chris Boyd here"<br>
" gday well done on the rugby title mate "<br>
" cheers, I wanting to have a word with you about the number of canes players in the team "<br>
"Is that right?"<br>
" yeah considering the final placing a of the teams (realises he can hear dial tone) ......, um Steve you still there...,,,,?" <br>
( sound of resigned sigh )<br>
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<p>Australian Rugby Union (ARU) boss Bill Pulver told the Herald the organisation was alerted to the discovery by Tew this morning - and the two rugby bodies have handed the matter to police.<br><br>
Pulver immediately cleared the ARU from any involvement or knowledge whatsoever.<br><br>
"Look, I have literally just seen a note from Steve Tew telling me about this and a brief statement they [New Zealand Rugby] are about to put out which confirms that they found a listening device and the two unions have agreed to hand the matter over to the police," Pulver said.<br><br>
"Mate, of course [the ARU is not involved]. It is completely ludicrous. I just think it's a ludicrous concept that there are listening devices being placed in team rooms. I don't know how that could happen."</p>
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