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@Tim said in TV Serieseseses:
Most TV shows are complete shit. David Chase has stated that they are now written so that people can still follow them if they are using their phone throughout.
Googled his comments and interesting - not sure on the attention span bit though. Couple of thoughts:
A lot of modern TV series are actually quite hard to follow - even sans phone - and require a lot of focus. We're watching True Detective and finding ourselves re-winding to catch the nuance and layers (I wonder if the writers understand the technology of the media better than we realise ...) In contrast, Endeavour, which is the best TV series I've seen in 10-15 years, is much easier to follow.
Think streaming could be the biggest change with a one-size-fits-all revenue model. The days when the likes of Steve Bochco could produce a Hill Street Blues, target a specific audience and charge a premium for advertising are sadly gone.
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The Lazarus Project
Pretty decent series (2) about a secret team who have developed a time machine of sorts that is able to 'reset time' back to a 'checkpoint' if required (to avoid world war, mass extinction event etc)
Last few eps of S2 did start to get very confusing with multiple timelines going on, I think I understand how it ended
Also just started Constellation, with Noomi Rapace, is another sci fi with Rapace the main character who against all odds, makes it back from ISS, only to find she is losing parts of her life.
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@taniwharugby said in TV Serieseseses:
The Lazarus Project
Pretty decent series (2) about a secret team who have developed a time machine of sorts that is able to 'reset time' back to a 'checkpoint' if required (to avoid world war, mass extinction event etc)
Last few eps of S2 did start to get very confusing with multiple timelines going on, I think I understand how it ended
Also just started Constellation, with Noomi Rapace, is another sci fi with Rapace the main character who against all odds, makes it back from ISS, only to find she is losing parts of her life.
I think I mentioned this a few weeks back, I really enjoyed it, but I'm a sucker for time travel shows (e.g Continuum, Travellers).
I really didn't like the girlfriend but quite liked her arc.
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@Kruse said in TV Serieseseses:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Tim said in TV Serieseseses:
Most TV shows are complete shit. David Chase has stated that they are now written so that people can still follow them if they are using their phone throughout.
Tokyo Vice season two is very good. Best thing on TV by a mile. Looks great too. Night time shots are very nice.
Are you part of the marketing team for this show? As this is the second time in a couple of weeks you've posted this. Season 1 was ok, but it must have made huge improvements in S2 for it to be the best thing on TV.
I don't have Paramount Plus anymore so will have to wait to confirm your hype.
Are you forgetting @Tim 's nightly drunken "This is the best thing EVER!" posts during Season 1?
I started S1 - but never finished. It did look good, but to be honest - I'm usually doing something else in parallel when watching TV. So - I'm part of the problem as Tim describes it - the target audience who is happy with simple stuff for half-attention.
For certain shows - where the visuals, subtitles, and/or storyline demand full attention - I'll try to focus properly - but at the time I'd started trying Tokyo-Vice - I just didn't have the time to give that full attention.
I'll give it another go at some pointI remember discussing it with him in the thread (the lack of an ending considering the opening scene of the series annoyed the fuck out of me) but I don't remember him hyping it up like it was a low budget 80s, a yacht rock band, or that cum related comedy he mentions.
I think we're in a time of all types of shows. I enjoy shifting from easy watching to stuff more difficult/gritty etc. Reality TV can go fuck itself though.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in TV Serieseseses:
@Tim said in TV Serieseseses:
Most TV shows are complete shit. David Chase has stated that they are now written so that people can still follow them if they are using their phone throughout.
Think streaming could be the biggest change with a one-size-fits-all revenue model. The days when the likes of Steve Bochco could produce a Hill Street Blues, target a specific audience and charge a premium for advertising are sadly gone.
In one of Alan Sepinwall's books he discusses how Hill Street Blues essentially set the template for modern TV. IIRC it was one of the first big shows to have multiple stories running at the same time. I think he did a comparison with recent shows (at the books publishing) like Mad Men etc and the number of stories in HSB was quaint by comparison.
*I reserve the right to have completely misremembered the book and ballsed this up completely ...
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@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Kruse said in TV Serieseseses:
@Nepia said in TV Serieseseses:
@Tim said in TV Serieseseses:
Most TV shows are complete shit. David Chase has stated that they are now written so that people can still follow them if they are using their phone throughout.
Tokyo Vice season two is very good. Best thing on TV by a mile. Looks great too. Night time shots are very nice.
Are you part of the marketing team for this show? As this is the second time in a couple of weeks you've posted this. Season 1 was ok, but it must have made huge improvements in S2 for it to be the best thing on TV.
I don't have Paramount Plus anymore so will have to wait to confirm your hype.
Are you forgetting @Tim 's nightly drunken "This is the best thing EVER!" posts during Season 1?
I started S1 - but never finished. It did look good, but to be honest - I'm usually doing something else in parallel when watching TV. So - I'm part of the problem as Tim describes it - the target audience who is happy with simple stuff for half-attention.
For certain shows - where the visuals, subtitles, and/or storyline demand full attention - I'll try to focus properly - but at the time I'd started trying Tokyo-Vice - I just didn't have the time to give that full attention.
I'll give it another go at some pointI remember discussing it with him in the thread (the lack of an ending considering the opening scene of the series annoyed the fuck out of me) but I don't remember him hyping it up like it was a low budget 80s, a yacht rock band, or that cum related comedy he mentions.
I think we're in a time of all types of shows. I enjoy shifting from easy watching to stuff more difficult/gritty etc. Reality TV can go fuck itself though.
Maybe my memory of the Tokyo-Vice fluffing was exaggerated... a quick search shows only 3 escalating levels of TV-love, before presumably climaxing and chilling out.
2022-04-11: Tokyo Vice is good.
2022-04-27: Are you watching Tokyo Vice? You should be.
2022-04-27: If you are not watching Tokyo Vice, then aren't watching shit. It is so fucking good.And yeah - very much like books, I appreciate a range of TV - from utter trash, to gritty/good. But indeed Reality TV doesn't even meet my minimum criteria for utter-trash... it can, indeed, go fuck itself. The lowest-quality I'll go is pretty much mid-series Walking Dead or shitty comic-book series - which I can watch while on rowing machine, knowing that if I miss some dialogue... it doesn't matter. I'll just catch it in a couple of episodes time, when they go through EXACTLY THE FUCKING SAME plot-device again.
And - like books - I tend to find myself watching more and more of the lower-end of quality recently - the "switch brain off and enjoy" bullshit. I really do need to get more diligent at reading/watching the "good stuff" again. My current excuse - I'll do that when I move to Seattle - that'll be the catalyst to get my shit together, fresh start, etc, etc. (Like fuck it will).
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It was groundbreaking. Read somewhere the opening sequence, which went on and on and on, was one take and they synced the dialogue afterwards. Ambitious in the days before digital.
Must catch and episode to see if it's aged.
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@Nepia yeah she was annoying, but her arc was good and she had become more likeable by the end.
I struggled to get into Tokyo Vice, there was something very different about the production that was off putting for me (was quite some time ago, I cant recall what) so only watch 3 or 4 eps.
Also @Nepia you may like Constellation then (although IIRC you arent a fan of Rapace) as there is a bit of time / parallel shit going on.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in TV Serieseseses:
@Tim said in TV Serieseseses:
Most TV shows are complete shit. David Chase has stated that they are now written so that people can still follow them if they are using their phone throughout.
Googled his comments and interesting - not sure on the attention span bit though. Couple of thoughts:
A lot of modern TV series are actually quite hard to follow - even sans phone - and require a lot of focus. We're watching True Detective and finding ourselves re-winding to catch the nuance and layers (I wonder if the writers understand the technology of the media better than we realise ...) In contrast, Endeavour, which is the best TV series I've seen in 10-15 years, is much easier to follow.
Think streaming could be the biggest change with a one-size-fits-all revenue model. The days when the likes of Steve Bochco could produce a Hill Street Blues, target a specific audience and charge a premium for advertising are sadly gone.
Came to Endeavour at season 8
Glad I went back to the start before watching 9 onwards
Superb series
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@Machpants said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
Shogūn
Based on Clavell's book
Two episodes have been aired
It is very goodOne of my read once a year books. I hope it sticks reasonably to the characters, even if there is no way they can do the full story. I hope we don't see a watering down of the brutality and beauty of the book. The events less important than the characters and the atmoshhere
Same - one of my top 2 books of all time along with Red Storm Rising. Clavell’s best for sure. So far so good with the show
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Roger Allam. Great actor.
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True Detective S4. 2 episodes in.This came highly recommended by Ms Cato no2. I have no issues with the female heavy cast but I am struggling to maintain interest. There seems little continuity with it just jumping from one set piece to the next.
Shout out to Clarice though for some great acting. Put up a convincing performance of taking some dick.
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Mr & Mrs Smith. Started this last night (on amazon), by god it's slow. Will try the second one tonight and see how we got on as the review are pretty good.
Jack Ryan. Enjoyed season 1 and 2, and started season 3. Like MMS above, it's pretty slow at the start, but then picks up from the end of the first episode.
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Spartan: Ultimate Team Challenge
Only watched the first episode so far, but this is fantastic if you have a penchant for low production values and the least athletic people you've seen attempt obstacles.
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@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
Shogūn
Based on Clavell's book
Two episodes have been aired
It is very goodWatched three episodes and I'm really enjoying it. I haven't read the book in >30 years so this is effectively all new to me.
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@antipodean said in TV Serieseseses:
@NTA said in TV Serieseseses:
Shogūn
Based on Clavell's book
Two episodes have been aired
It is very goodWatched three episodes and I'm really enjoying it. I haven't read the book in >30 years so this is effectively all new to me.
The book is well worth a re-read, I’ve been back 4-5 times. Agree the show is fun also
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For the game playing nerds amongst us, Amazon Prime have a new series based on Fallout.