Black Caps v South Africa
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@Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.
you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.
In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.
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@nzzp said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
@Chris said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:
It will be a true test of where we are at as a test nation atm.
you know where we are as a test nation. We are solid, and near the top tier, but struggle with really good sides.
In other words, one of the better sides we've ever put out, but not the WTC Mace winning quality.
You live in hope we can lift in our conditions I am hopeful of a good series from us.
But I know the Australian cricket mind set it will be very tough. -
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Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradman -
@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradmanthat doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test..
Edit: forget it, you're looking at conversions only (my bad), FYI he almost did have consecutive test record if it wasn't for the bangles first test
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Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSABest 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
% (100s/50s)
69 (29/13) D Bradman
51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
51 (28/27) M Clarke
51 (30/29) M Hayden
51 (34/33) Younis Khan
49 (32/33) K Williamson
49 (29/30) V Kohli
48 (22/24) W Hammond
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@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. Bradmanthat doesnt sound right? you mean tests in a row and not innnings right? Even that isnt right because of one Bangladesh test
It means the last 8 times he has gone past 50 he’s converted them all into 100s.
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@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSABest 50-100 conversion rate in tests (min 20x100)
% (100s/50s)
69 (29/13) D Bradman
51 (22/21) M Azharuddin
51 (28/27) M Clarke
51 (30/29) M Hayden
51 (34/33) Younis Khan
49 (32/33) K Williamson
49 (29/30) V Kohli
48 (22/24) W Hammond
#NZvSAKane was at one point 24/33
Now he’s 32/33. Incredible really
His last 50 was the WTC final 3 years ago when he finished 52* -
@Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Kane Williams has gone from our greatest batsmen to one of test history’s best batsmen
One amazing stat is he’s now scored 8 centuries in a row once passing 50. Only Bradman has done better at 12. BradmanHe really is. One more test ton will equal Alastair Cook. Another will equal Brian Lara, Mahela Jayawardene, Sunil Gavaskar and Younis Khan.
Far less test than them too.
Younis Khan had a hell of a record but he’s not spoken of in that top bracket very often
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Stats - Multiple records for Williamson as New Zealand end South Africa duck
O'Rourke's match haul of 9 for 93 is the best for a New Zealand bowler on Test debut
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Am glad we were first to win the Tangiwai Shield, it's such an amazing story.
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Great to finally have a series win over the Proteas - congratulations to the Black Caps!
It's good to have a genuine great in the batting ranks. Assuming Kane plays both tests against Oz, the second test in Christchurch will be his 100th test - might have to pop along for a day to see the great man in action.
If he plays and bats all 4 innings and keeps to his average, he will move into the top 20 runscorers of all time - he is currently 25th. If he continues his purple patch, he may pass 9,000 runs in which case he would be 3rd= fastest to do so. At his current average, he will be 4th= fastest.
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I really enjoyed watching Kane bat today.
What sets him apart for me is when he survives a close call, or a tough over or two, or even a tough hour or two, you can literally see him working out in his head how he’s going to combat what he’s up against.
For instance there was a period today, I think he might have been on 30 odd, facing Paterson I think, he almost chipped two straight to short mid on in the same over, you could see him figuring out how he needed to adjust. Sure enough he didn’t do that again.
What a privilege to watch him play.
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Stayed up watching KW to the wee hours of the morning.
For me test cricket is awesome , T20 leaves me cold.
Was mightily impressed w the SA bowling early on.
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@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others. -
@reprobate said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.I recall a test win where Richard Hadlee (Richard Hadlee! In super seaming conditions.) didn't. (First win in England, 1983 Headingley. All wickets to the C team.) But I digress.
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@reprobate said in Black Caps v South Africa:
@bayimports said in Black Caps v South Africa:
Francis is a passionate bofin, love it..couple of other interesting ones
The 152 run stand between Williamson & Young is easily the highest unbroken 4th wicket partnership to win a test for NZ. (It was only NZ's fourth seven wicket win). The other unbroken 4th wicket stands stands were 39, 15 and 11 #NZvSA
A few tables to update...
Playing in most test winning sides for NZ
44 Ross Taylor
44 Tim Southee
43 Kane Williamson
Southee has taken at least one wicket in every NZ test win that he's played in #NZvSAThat last stat seems hardly notable? Our front line opening bowler getting one wicket per match?
Quick search says so did Boult, so did Chris Martin, so has Henry - can't be bothered looking at any others.Yeah but that most test wins stat is pretty damn cool.
I got given one of those cricket nerd books in the early 2000s about NZs first fifty test wins. They got the 50th in the early 2000s. The team has more than doubled that since then.
Probably spoken enough about KW for now.
Taylor was a fantastic player in a brilliant era.
Southee is on the decline but he has had some terrific moments.
Worth noting that the immortal Paddles only led us to victory 22 times in comparison !
Wow, genuinely shocked at that. I thought late 30s would have been about right.
I think the point worth noting there is while Paddles is still our best player ever ( maybe because a legendary all rounder will always trump a legendary specialist ) the efforts of the others in unison yielded better results….
Then of course Paddles didn’t really have many if any minnows in his day to beat up on it must be said.
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We're not going to have Big Kyle for Australia - or anyone else - until next summer.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350183254/black-caps-bowler-kyle-jamieson-sidelined-injury-least-year
Pretty major loss.
