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    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

    Don’t forget Braydon Ennor either. @Bones should be along to talk him up any second

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    I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.

    "Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."
    
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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.

    "Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and **there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."**
    

    What, actually passing the ball ?

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    No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made

    And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.

    And we still nearly won.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

    This is complete fucking bullshit

    Fucking Hurricanes fans

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

    This is complete fucking bullshit

    Fucking Hurricanes fans

    I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I'm interested to see what O'Halloran can do with Ioane for the Blues.

    "Rieko still has a level to go to. I've looked at aspects of his game and there are changes we can make that i'm pretty sure he'll be receptive to."
    

    Changes:

    1. Not using the 'handbag under the chicken wing' technique to carry the ball. Two hands on the ball, please.
    2. Learning the meaning of 'Play and let play'.
    3. Increasing his situational awareness and improving his decision-making on attack & defence.
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  • TimT Away
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    @mariner4life It could be worse, over on the Stuff comments section some troglodyte is calling for Quentin Strange to be AB captain.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made

    And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.

    And we still nearly won.

    If Jordie or Mo'unga could kick their goals, we'd be lauding all of them as heros now. One goddamn point.

    On 12 for next year, Tupaea isn't big, but can carry. It will be interesting to see how he goes.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

    This is complete fucking bullshit

    Fucking Hurricanes fans

    I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more

    Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries

    It wasn't the overrated 12

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    We were a whisker away from unexpected glory. Lot of b*tching over nothing really. In summary need a lock and a 6

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    No one could have, because there are no other lump 12s in NZ. But that wasn't thr point any one made

    And I don't think we deviated from the plan, thr plan went to shit in the face of cards and insane saffer tackling.

    And we still nearly won.

    If Jordie or Mo'unga could kick their goals, we'd be lauding all of them as heros now. One goddamn point.

    On 12 for next year, Tupaea isn't big, but can carry. It will be interesting to see how he goes.

    Pity he has suspect defence.

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    @Chris agreed - Tupaea falls off of a lot of tackles

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
    Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
    The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.

    five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?

    Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.

    So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

    This is complete fucking bullshit

    Fucking Hurricanes fans

    I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more

    Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries

    It wasn't the overrated 12

    Clearly you forget what we were like when we had Havili at 12.... JB was the one who got us moving forward up the guts from midfield

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    The Way Razor has set up the selection of the squad is very good imo.
    Having each coach responsible for the selection of certain positions.
    The pointer to selection of the team is not all around Razor but where the other coaches will lean towards.

    five different selecting groups for one team. what could go wrong?

    Over seen by Razor and Wayne smith Nothing imo.

    So who's actually in charge of selecting the team?

    The structure of selection
    Ryan picks the tight 5
    Razor the LFs
    Hanson Hbs and First fives
    Holland MF
    McDonald outside backs

    Razor overseas the selection with Wayne Smiths in put.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I defy anyone to name another player in NZ who could have done a better job than JB at 12. Our failure to succeed was as much about the pattern we chose to play than anything. We departed from the game plan from the Ireland victory, for the second RWC in a row, and consequently came unstuck. IMHO he is a core backline piece, the question Razor will ask is who will play beside him

    With Jason Holland selecting the MF,Billy Procter probably comes in to contention at 13.

    Ioane has played well over the last year, but he doesn't distribute the ball to his outsides as a typical 13 should. Proctor had a very good SR season last year, he has a chance to pair up with JB again

    This is complete fucking bullshit

    Fucking Hurricanes fans

    I thought he played very well, and he was excellent at running off JB. I'm just saying he could set his outsides up more

    Go loom who threw the last pass in a bunch of world cup tries

    It wasn't the overrated 12

    Clearly you forget what we were like when we had Havili at 12.... JB was the one who got us moving forward up the guts from midfield

    Being better than David Havili is not a flex

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