The Current State of Rugby
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@MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Dan54 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Tim said in The Current State of Rugby:
Warren Gatland: The changes I would make to rugby in 2024
Kicking often at the World Cup was a successful strategy but it needs to change.
Love Gatland, but that is muddled, contradictory thinking.
Too much kicking in the game in one breath, and then 'remove the mark' in the next.
If you remove the mark we'll see more not less kicking.
I thought about removing the mark etc, not a fan, but I can see what he's getting at, like the 50-22 won't it hold defence back? If someone put's up a kick you will need to know you got at least one player back to help your last man as he can't take a mark, so would actually (like the 50-22) mean less players up in front line defence?
Would just mean more kick & hopes from the 9, 10, possibly the 12 for the wingers to contest rather than beating the man by passing and hip swivels IMHO.
Yep I wondering about that too Mike, but I wonder did the 50-22 lead to more kicking (I thought it would), it did lead to more room in attack as I think we are finding wings staying deeper, and this could well be what he thinking. As I say I not convinced or otherwise, just trying to look at both sides really
I one of these grumpy old men who doesn't really like any laws/rules being changed, so perhaps I am trying to open my mind a bit more.
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@booboo said in The Current State of Rugby:
Don't mind his proposals generally.
- Expanding 50:22 forces space for attack.
- reducing subs increases fatigue
- admitting the goal line drop-out is a fail allows sides to attack the line
Agree with Mike above about removing the mark. Not sure what that gains.
Another change I'd like to see a change to the free kick. Allow fks to be kicked directly to touch on the full and award the lineout where it crosses to touch. Teams often have little option but to reset a scrum when a fk is awarded with resultant time lost. Allowing them to clear and contest a lineout should cut down some scrum resets. IMO.
Attaboy
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@booboo said in The Current State of Rugby:
Don't mind his proposals generally.
- Expanding 50:22 forces space for attack.
- reducing subs increases fatigue
- admitting the goal line drop-out is a fail allows sides to attack the line
Agree with Mike above about removing the mark. Not sure what that gains.
Another change I'd like to see a change to the free kick. Allow fks to be kicked directly to touch on the full and award the lineout where it crosses to touch. Teams often have little option but to reset a scrum when a fk is awarded with resultant time lost. Allowing them to clear and contest a lineout should cut down some scrum resets. IMO.
Attaboy
Yeah, there are some pedantic pricks on here, amongst the deliberately obtuse.
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@Bones said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Dan54 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@Bones c.mon mate, can you tell me your opinion on knock downs in the game??
Perfectly legal.
Actually seriously, wouldn't really argue anyway, even if I was just taking piss a bit.
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We’re you reffing Harlequins v Gloucester earlier?
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@MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:
We’re you reffing Harlequins v Gloucester earlier?
By geez that was an entertaing game wasn't it Mike? And know what you talking about, there did seem one or 2 decisions could of gone either way with knock downs.
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@Dan54 said in The Current State of Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in The Current State of Rugby:
We’re you reffing Harlequins v Gloucester earlier?
By geez that was an entertaing game wasn't it Mike? And know what you talking about, there did seem one or 2 decisions could of gone either way with knock downs.
Hometown calls aplenty
Gloucester weren’t supposed to win that one, although they coulda/shoulda
Hastings had a mare, and the Marcus Smith wankfest is stomach churning
Flatman’s unconditional support of the ref became tiresome
Gloucester gifted it
The Ref wrapped it -
Now here's something interesting I never realised, who knew you could score a try while having your feet in touch?
So long as you not holding ball, ie you in touch you could lean over and put downward pressure on ball.
To those that knew, I know you cleverer than me (that's not hard lol). and those that didn't know, that's ok, just starting the new year by helping you out with the laws!
Anyway, time I loaded clubs etc and went to golf instead of boring you lot!
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@NTA said in The Current State of Rugby:
The laws of touch are absurd and make an AR's job very hard on occasion.
I liked the stand in touch (one foot), catch it and it's out on the full rule.
This jump from outside to in is silly. Can see the intent (opportunity to keep the ball alive). But it looks odd.
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Talking of laws and refs etc for the @DaGrubster , here's somone you will recognise in this article.
Gone from kicking your arse at college, (and my useless son), and coaching with me as well as other stuff, to New Zealand Rugby game development manager – referees. Lol -
I reckon they should, in the name of safety, outlaw attacking players jumping to contest kicks, and continue carding them if they touch the defensive player in the air. As a bonus it might stop the bore-fest of repetitive contestable bombs, and make the game worth watching again. England South Africa in the WC was fucking dire, and if I want to watch a shit game that is only exciting because it's close I can watch soccer.
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@Dan54 said in The Current State of Rugby:
Talking of laws and refs etc for the @DaGrubster , here's somone you will recognise in this article.
Gone from kicking your arse at college, (and my useless son), and coaching with me as well as other stuff, to New Zealand Rugby game development manager – referees. LolGood article. Credit where it's due Stuff and Aaron Goiles.
Did the test. Got 4 wrong I think (just in my head and flicking up and down back to the questions when "marking"). Can't remember which ones, but in saying that I also made a best guess on a couple, so it's not a true reflection of actual knowledge.
Stuff