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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @Bovidae said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Chris said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    D Mac under pressure at First five will be interesting,

    They need to select the right halfback first, (i.e., not Christie). Not having BB throwing a hospital pass would also help.

    Yes that all adds to the equation.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @voodoo said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    these things will also not improve.

    I'm on board with the rest of the post but geez, that's pretty out there.

    dont think its too crazy an idea that players don't tend to get FASTER as the age...and speed plays a roles in how he creates mismatches

    Except that's not what I was talking about.

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    @george33 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @KiwiMurph he should have been 10 from the start, Mounga just wasn't cut out to be a test 10 and it was proved in the end

    By your 'logic' none of the team in the last RWC should have been picked-that includes BB.

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  • KruseK Offline
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    @george33 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @KiwiMurph aren't we all a fan of Beauden just needs that 10 jersey, Mounga had 2 World cups in it and lost both in the driver's seat simple as that

    Fuck I'm close to creating 10 dummy accounts to upvote this shitloads.
    Magic.
    Finger-tips to the lips, and... kissy-noise.

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    @Kruse I believe you mean chef's kiss

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    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Kruse I believe you mean chef's kiss

    Fuck - I knew there was a smartier way of saying it, I just lacked the cerberary capcity to 'member it.

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    @Bovidae said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Chris said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    D Mac under pressure at First five will be interesting,

    They need to select the right halfback first, (i.e., not Christie). Not having BB throwing a hospital pass would also help.

    Interesting in his radio interview the only halfback Razor name checked was Roigard.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    Razor did try to sign Fakatava and Ratima before he signed Heinz and Hotham that might be a pointer to his thinking on the other HBs along with Roigard .

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    @Chris said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    D Mac under pressure at First five will be interesting,
    I have seen him Panic getting kicks charged down and reverting back to running sideways.
    I hope he fixes those things up,as he is way above anyone else we have available now as a First Five option.

    Next season will be testing for D Mac 2 tests in 2 weeks V SA in SA.
    England at home for 2 tests
    And a tough end of year tour with potential games. V England,Ireland and France.

    He did improve (certainly not eliminate but improved) on both these aspects for the Chiefs in the last round of SR.

    Of course there's no guarantee at all that SR form will flow into internationals but at least it shows that it's an aspect of his game he's trying to improve.

    Given 2024 is set up to be his first year as the main driver of the AB's at 10 I'm putting him in the "a lot to prove, but I hope he'll prove me right" camp.

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    @Windows97

    Given 2024 is set up to be his first year as the main driver of the AB's at 10 I'm putting him in the "a lot to prove, but I hope he'll prove me right" camp.

    Yeah I am at the same place and also have DMac in that camp.

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    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @voodoo said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    these things will also not improve.

    I'm on board with the rest of the post but geez, that's pretty out there.

    dont think its too crazy an idea that players don't tend to get FASTER as the age...and speed plays a roles in how he creates mismatches

    Except that's not what I was talking about.

    what were you talking about then because you quoted

    He was clearly our best option at 10 this year, but his strengths were his speed and eye for a mismatch in broken play. Those things will not improve over time.

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    did mcclutchie get a contract in the end?...or does this video talk about people that wont even be playing super rugby next year?

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    @Kiwiwomble Not named in any SR squad, unfortunately. No further news yet.

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    Normally a pretty crap channel, he is articulating what a lot of fans are thinking.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Kiwiwomble said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @voodoo said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    these things will also not improve.

    I'm on board with the rest of the post but geez, that's pretty out there.

    dont think its too crazy an idea that players don't tend to get FASTER as the age...and speed plays a roles in how he creates mismatches

    Except that's not what I was talking about.

    what were you talking about then because you quoted

    He was clearly our best option at 10 this year, but his strengths were his speed and eye for a mismatch in broken play. Those things will not improve over time.

    No, I didn't quote that. The word "also" in the bit I quoted gives you a hint as to what bit I was talking about - as does voodoo's response 😉

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    @SBW1 Maybe RM is thinking of the future of the ABs and not his own future in the ABs. New 10s need test experience before they can get settled. Perhaps RM is getting out of the way. If only B Barrett had the same mindset - he's been clogging both the AB 10 and 15 conveyor belt since 2019.

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    @Punch_up said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    Maybe RM is thinking of the future of the ABs and not his own future in the ABs. New 10s need test experience before they can get settled. Perhaps RM is getting out of the way. If only B Barrett had the same mindset - he's been clogging both the AB 10 and 15 conveyor belt since 2019.

    This is just fan fiction. Mo'unga made it clear his move was about making more money (with the token 'experiencing a new culture' thrown in)

    No problem with Mo'unga opting for money. That's a personal choice players have to make. Why pretend it's something more noble? Just to bash another player?

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by gt12
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    @Duluth

    Barrett is not clogging it up, the selectors make their choices and if he still wants to be available, then that's excellent news.

    Would I select him? Probably not, but equally there is much we don't know - I'm sure that I've read players saying that Barrett's communication and organization from 15 is what sets him apart.

    Personally, I'm excited to see what Dmac can do. He was easily the most dangerous player on the park in the final and it was a mistake to use him so late.

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