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    Stuff
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    I'd follow this man through fire.

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    "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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    As long as no one raises interminable Razor arguments - I'm quite happy to actually wait until he selects and plays his first team.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    Stuff

    I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
    "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    Stuff

    I'm a fan of reading statements like this:
    "At test level it is different. Having been at the World Cup, they are bigger bodies, there are more small moments that have big margins on them,'' Robertson noted.

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

    You just bolded all the weaknesses from the last tenure, and the things that stopped us winning the final. Fix that without sacrificing quality game breaking players to do it, and we are well on our way

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

    So that sounds like bye-bye to
    kicking: BB
    defensive game: Will Jordan
    discipline: Sam Cane

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

    So that sounds like bye-bye to
    kicking: BB
    defensive game: Will Jordan
    discipline: Sam Cane

    He'll just ask them all to refocus. Weren't most of us lamenting our inability to close out games, to exit, our defensive discipline, and the number of YCs we conceded long before and throughout the RWC?

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    We'll have to wait and see if the discipline improves. The days of BOK and his ilk refereeing are over, and we've seen that the NH refs are totally different to what NZ/Aust refs focus on in SR.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

    So that sounds like bye-bye to
    kicking: BB
    defensive game: Will Jordan
    discipline: Sam Cane

    discipline: the new proposed captain should be a goner too, the only AB to have two red cards in tests.

    TBF, is our defence that bad, the GREATEST team in the world couldn't score a try against our mostly 14 man team.

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    @Nepia yeah, definitely more worried about scooter

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    @Nepia our defence improved quite alot last year.

    Our goal line defence had always been pretty good under McLeod but when it came to defending depth, we really struggled.

    But our discipline remained poor last year.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    But our discipline remained poor last year.

    And it's interesting to see him calling that out specifically, because his crusaders teams trod all over the refs, so hopefully he realises that won't fly at test level.

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    GOAT

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    Interesting to listen to Razor on Newstalk ZB about how the coaching team will focus on players during Super Rugby

    Leon will focus on outside backs, Holland midfield, Scott Hansen halves, Razor loosies and Jase Ryan tight 5.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

    So that sounds like bye-bye to
    kicking: BB
    defensive game: Will Jordan
    discipline: Sam Cane

    discipline: the new proposed captain should be a goner too, the only AB to have two red cards in tests.

    TBF, is our defence that bad, the GREATEST team in the world couldn't score a try against our mostly 14 man team.

    Defence is not just about stopping tries, it's about stopping points. They won, and indeed we conceded the most ever points by an AB team this year. So yes, defence is a major concern

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    "The kicking game is so critical, the defensive game and the discipline. So how can you embed those core things early? You can be open to all information or be really, really clear.

    So that sounds like bye-bye to
    kicking: BB
    defensive game: Will Jordan
    discipline: Sam Cane

    discipline: the new proposed captain should be a goner too, the only AB to have two red cards in tests.

    TBF, is our defence that bad, the GREATEST team in the world couldn't score a try against our mostly 14 man team.

    Um, our locking stocks are shaky as it is.

    TBF, is our defence that bad

    It is if the opposition can get cards and penalties from it.

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    @Dan54 with NZ losing so much playing talent, and with it the ability to be player-led, maybe the coach does need to be main man again. A bit like Carwyn James when masterminded the Lions triumph in '71 (albeit aided by some generational talent) and ushered NZ into the modern age of running rugby 😉

    NZ used to be leading rugby-innovators. Time to re-take that mantle and develop the players to follow the Robertson masterplan 🙂

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    Interesting to listen to Razor on Newstalk ZB about how the coaching team will focus on players during Super Rugby

    Leon will focus on outside backs, Holland midfield, Scott Hansen halves, Razor loosies and Jase Ryan tight 5.

    Depends on what is meant by focus. Watching players is one thing (what every coaching setup does), working with SR coaching teams is another. I hope it's the latter and NZR can facilitate if needed, but as someone up the thread said, if SR coaches don't play ball, Robertson and co can't complain.

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    @stodders said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @Dan54 with NZ losing so much playing talent, and with it the ability to be player-led, maybe the coach does need to be main man again. A bit like Carwyn James when masterminded the Lions triumph in '71 (albeit aided by some generational talent) and ushered NZ into the modern age of running rugby 😉

    NZ used to be leading rugby-innovators. Time to re-take that mantle and develop the players to follow the Robertson masterplan 🙂

    I don't think innovation can be all down to Robertson - needs to be an effort across the piece. From what I read of Carwyn James, his style & thinking was pretty much established in Wales before he took over the Lions coaching role. (And amazing to think that James - arguably the greatest coach of them all - never coached Wales).

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