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    @MiketheSnow said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    I like the look of Aidan Morgan

    You are on a mission since last year to prove yourself as an awful judge of kiwi 10s eh 😬 he's been in pretty bad form this year and has fallen well outta favour.

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    Do like the intent of this thread.

    Personally I'm a fanboi of Zarn.

    Just like the way he plays. And reckon he has a very high ceiling.

    Not sure Super Rugby and AB coaches think the same 😞

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    Zarn Sullivan has the highest ceiling (maybe)
    Develop him, and he also covers fullback.

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    @booboo said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    Do like the intent of this thread.

    Personally I'm a fanboi of Zarn.

    Just like the way he plays. And reckon he has a very high ceiling.

    Not sure Super Rugby and AB coaches think the same 😞

    Did you watch much NPC? Zarn has a long way to go at ten. He's an AB quality fullback though

    Lucas Cashmore might be ahead of him in the 10 rankings at the Blues (it's hard to guess with the changes in the coaching staff)

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    @Duluth said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    Zarn has a long way to go at ten. He's an AB quality fullback though

    Thoughts on him as a possible 12? Has the distribution game, and has some decent size.

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    @Tim

    Maybe. Could be a way to ruin a good fullback too

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    @Duluth said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    Did you watch much NPC?

    Much? Any? Yeah nah ... sorry

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    @Frank I hope the Blues will play him at 10 but I suspect they will play Perofeta and Zarn will play 15. I think Zarn has the most potential to be a world class 10 I don't have much hope for many of the other youngsters coming through on my limited viewing of them.

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    I don't understand the concern around Perofeta, was he poor in NPC or something? He got fuck all chance in the ABs, I'd prefer to see him at least given a proper try, rather than scraps when the coaches have shown zero confidence in him.

    If he can settle in at test level I really like his game style.

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    @Punch_up said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    flyhalf

    A what? Take that talk over to GAGR…

    @Bones I don’t mind Perofeta’s game overall but I’m not sure he’s a natural 1st 5 or has the instincts for the position. Prefer him at fullback.

    Yet to see anything from Z. Sullivan that suggests he could play 1st 5 even at Super level. Like Perofeta, much prefer him at fullback.

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    Z Sullivan looked like a FB playing first five in the NPC.

    His future is at FB Imo.

    Good under the high ball great boot hits the line well.
    He looked slow at first five his reaction time was slow in his decision making.
    I don’t see Sullivan as a AB first five, FB yes.

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    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    I don't understand the concern around Perofeta, was he poor in NPC or something? He got fuck all chance in the ABs, I'd prefer to see him at least given a proper try, rather than scraps when the coaches have shown zero confidence in him.

    If he can settle in at test level I really like his game style.

    Taranaki played him mostly at FB he didn’t really get a chance at First five.
    SR will give him a chance to get game time there.
    Cotter I saw in an interview mentioned Perofeta as likely to get the first shot at First five.

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    @ACT-Crusader @Chris yeah I'm looking forward to him getting a proper go at ten, without Barrett in the mix.

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    @Bones This is what everybody's thinking. 😂

    I can just hear them saying "We need more mongrel in the number 10 jersey!"

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    @Canes4life I hear what you're saying. Personally, I don't hate him and he hasn't done anything terrible in black imo, but his play doesn't grab my imagination. He's Mounga-Lite (and that's not really a compliment).

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    Assuming DMac and BB are available, Robertson has some breathing space at 10 to look at SR form, pick options and then develop them. Be good to think he'd be working with the SR coaches on the latter.

    Perofeta is the most "experienced" (seems to have all but 10 seconds of AB game time) but my guess is also Rueben Love and Zarn Sullivan. Bryn Gatland if he returns? Not sold on Havili - maybe OK as a utility on the bench.

    Same re Havili. He was always good coming off the bench as FB cover. First five is a marginally better fit for him than 2nd five, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that experiment... even at the Crusaders tbh.

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    @Bovidae said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    If Love isn't going to play 1st 5 for the Hurricanes he is no chance. In that case, Cameron would be ahead of him.

    That's the whole thing with these candidates, super rugby game time is crucial.

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    @MiketheSnow said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    I like the look of Aidan Morgan

    I'm not really an Aidan Morgan fan. Always struck me as a bit small, but otoh Dmac is no giant. Only Zarn and Rivez have any sort of size advantage over the others. However, some folks don't like size at 10 at all.

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    @Duluth said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @booboo said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    Do like the intent of this thread.

    Personally I'm a fanboi of Zarn.

    Just like the way he plays. And reckon he has a very high ceiling.

    Not sure Super Rugby and AB coaches think the same 😞

    Did you watch much NPC? Zarn has a long way to go at ten. He's an AB quality fullback though

    Lucas Cashmore might be ahead of him in the 10 rankings at the Blues (it's hard to guess with the changes in the coaching staff)

    Damn it. Cashmore should've been in my original post tbh.

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    @Bones said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

    @ACT-Crusader @Chris yeah I'm looking forward to him getting a proper go at ten, without Barrett in the mix.

    You'd like to to think the AB & SR coaches are co-ordinated on where players play as well

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