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  • nostrildamusN Offline
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    replied to Dodge on last edited by nostrildamus
    #1159

    @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Well this is a perfect fucking summary of what happened in this tournament. Flats is a top journalist / pundit. I hated thinking he was right the first time I saw this, I wanted France or Ireland to go all the way (I never thought we had a chance), but fuck me the simplicity of this message is perfect

    Maybe, but I loved the twitter replies

    1 guy who has never been afraid to speak against the noise. He openly said in January already that Sputh Africa has such a dangerously good talent pipeline, if we retain Rassie then we will dominate for years.
    Only IRB changing rules to rugby league will stop our dominance

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    #1160

    Um if SA coaches were so brilliant tactically, shouldn't they have picked Pollard at the start? (Yeah, yeah, Rassie points to trophies on the wall as answer)...

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    @voodoo we're better than some want to admit

    Ireland have no idea what the pressure of a RWC final does. They had their shot and we beat them

    The final rammed home that there is absolutely nothing between the top 4 sides,

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @voodoo we're better than some want to admit

    Ireland have no idea what the pressure of a RWC final does. They had their shot and we beat them

    The final rammed home that there is absolutely nothing between the top 4 sides,

    I'm increasingly convinced that our tactics on the day were a significant contributor to us not winning. If Razor can fix that, we will be dangerous

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    #1163

    @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Well this is a perfect fucking summary of what happened in this tournament. Flats is a top journalist / pundit. I hated thinking he was right the first time I saw this, I wanted France or Ireland to go all the way (I never thought we had a chance), but fuck me the simplicity of this message is perfect

    Hopefully by the next RWC cycle Pougach will be fucking put out to pasture and Flats will be running the show

    He's brilliant

    And funny as fuck too

    If you have a chance to see him live, do it

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  • Billy WebbB Offline
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    @nostrildamus said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Um if SA coaches were so brilliant tactically, shouldn't they have picked Pollard at the start? (Yeah, yeah, Rassie points to trophies on the wall as answer)...

    Pollard wasn't originally picked in the squad because at the time of selection he was out injured and had been for some time. And the Boks have a policy* of not picking injured players 😉

    Same went for Am and Lood de Jager.
    They were though all placed on the standby list.

    You could argue Kolisi was the exception. But by some miracle, he came back from knee surgery and was able to play a bit just before squad selection.

    *Note: the actual policy I know of is that if you are not fit enough to train on the Monday, you don't get picked for the weekend.
    Cases in point would be Vincent Koch not making it to this final, and in the 2019 edition, Cheslin Kolbe not playing in the Semi-final.

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    @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    We've had 9 10 world cups, but only 8 captains, has someone died? Nope, it's just the 2 x 🐐 double Captain power!

    Freshened up your post for you.
    Nice thing is that photo will last until 2027 too.

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    @Billy-Webb said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    We've had 9 10 world cups, but only 8 captains, has someone died? Nope, it's just the 2 x 🐐 double Captain power!

    Freshened up your post for you.
    Nice thing is that photo will last until 2027 too.

    How thoughtful and generous of you! Try not to dwell on the new potential horror that Tom Foley the TMO can call back a play no matter how many phases (days ago) it was!

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    #1167

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  • SmutsS Offline
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    #1168

    @nostrildamus said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Billy-Webb said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    We've had 9 10 world cups, but only 8 captains, has someone died? Nope, it's just the 2 x 🐐 double Captain power!

    Freshened up your post for you.
    Nice thing is that photo will last until 2027 too.

    How thoughtful and generous of you! Try not to dwell on the new potential horror that Tom Foley the TMO can call back a play no matter how many phases (days ago) it was!

    TMO’s are a blight on the game.

    Imagine having that power and not going back to penalize the 97 Lions’ scrum right off Newlands in the first test and award both Russell Bennett’s tries that were wrongly called back for forward passes.

    Sort Bill Youngs out while you’re at it. Cowards.

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    @Bones

    It would be good to see stats for the number of shit kicks per game. Pretty sure England would top that list too 😟

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    @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Bones

    It would be good to see stats for the number of shit kicks per game. Pretty sure England would top that list too 😟

    On an absolute basis, maybe.

    But plenty of supposedly attacking teams put up a huge number of ale-house balls. back & midBarrett, Mounga and Jordan all hoofed and hoped with overlaps in the final.

    And Kriel’s worst play of the RWC was his shocking effort after Kwagga’s turnover.

    I was many beers in but I also vaguely recall one of the Irish players putting up a nothing kick right at the death when he had space to exploit. You could almost see his gears stripping as he tried and failed to come up with anything better to do. Pressure’s a bastard.

    It’s a long while ago now but Scotland probably were the worst wasters of good attacking ball with low percentage kicks.

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    #1171

    @Smuts Some stand outs there for sure but when we're talking sheer weight of numbers...

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    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

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    I think a better stat would be "kicks per minute of possession".

    After all, if your opposition isn't going to kick it back to you, or there are a lot of stoppages, you're unlikely to have the same opportunity to kick.

    I saw this stat before the Semifinal and it was quite low for the Boks BUT also need to keep in mind that, in their pools:

    1. Running over Romania meant less kicking and much more dead time due to tries and conversions.
    2. Smashing Tonga (17 kicks per game mind) meant less kicking
    3. Ireland and Scotland played high-possession rugby, so the Boks have less time or inclination to kick.

    Context.

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    @NTA

    All good points but you’re not denying us our moment of glory. We are top of the table. It’s a matter of record.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    #1174

    Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

    And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

    Context is everything

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    #1175

    @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

    And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

    Context is everything

    Have to assume it's what they do between the kicks.

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #1176

    @booboo you mean score tries 😉

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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
    #1177

    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @booboo you mean score tries 😉

    Except for Portugal

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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    replied to MiketheSnow on last edited by taniwharugby
    #1178

    @MiketheSnow I expect they were at least trying to though 🙂

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