Will Jordan's try scoring
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A nice Stuff article by Marc Hinton on Will reminded me of this thread. Marc missed a trick by not noting that Will went past his childhood hero Danny Boy in test tries on Saturday morning.
Coincidentally, compared with the OP, Will has played another 15 tests (since then) and scored another 12 tries. He hasn't had a five try romp against Tonga in those tests, so I'd guess statistics theory would be inconclusive that he's slowed down - small samples etc.
He's now up to 31 test tries from 30 tests - alongside Ma'a Nonu who got 31 from 103 tests.
Once you're over 30 test tries, I think you're into the elite list of AB try-scorers (that no forwards have got to).
Will's now 13th equal on the all-time test try scoring record. Of those ahead of him only Big Jules (54 tests) and Cully (58 tests) have played less than twice the number Will has. I'm pretty sure he's about four tests faster than Joe Rok in getting to this mark and pretty sure Joe was the next fastest (though I haven't checked).
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Lots of ifs and buts in terms of positional changes (I'm expecting he'll play fullback next year), injuries and whether he hangs around, but you'd be pretty brave to bet against him toppling Doug's record.
If he ends up playing as long as e.g. Ben Smith or Beauden, he might well end up with a sort of Bradmanesque All black try-scoring mark - and get up around the world leaders - Ohata (69), Habana (67) and Campo (64).
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@Cyclops said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
It's kind of incredible that Savea, Rokocoko and Cullen all ended on 46
By crikey that wouldn’t look too bad as an all time XV back three.
Well, fullback is locked in but Jonah, Goldie and JK would get ahead of those wingers. Amazing legacy when you look at it that way.
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@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……70 ( and counting ) is fucken outstanding.
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ? Hosea Gear didn’t play as much as he should have….Not sure Robin Brooke got many…..Akira Ioane only has one to help his brother. The Franks were more into other aspects of Rugby than scoring tries….
Aaron, Conrad and Ben Smith maybe ?
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@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
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@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
I’m really struggling to find a good list on the interweb.
Isn’t 24 plus 46 = 70 ? ( Saveas )
Scott obviously adding a handful gets the Barretts up there.
Who is legitimately third ? ( I just found out the Smiths aren’t related, turns out its a common name )
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@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
Did Wayne never score a try?
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@Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
Did Wayne never score a try?
Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?
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@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
Did Wayne never score a try?
Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
Did Wayne never score a try?
Wayne Ioane or Wayne Savea ?
I don't think Tawera Kerr-Barlow and Wayne Kerr even make the top 10.
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@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
I’m really struggling to find a good list on the interweb.
Isn’t 24 plus 46 = 70 ? ( Saveas )
Scott obviously adding a handful gets the Barretts up there.
Who is legitimately third ? ( I just found out the Smiths aren’t related, turns out its a common name )
I just added them up either from Wiki and/or AB's website but good chance they haven't updated.
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@Bones said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Magpie_in_aus said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@MN5 said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
@Bovidae said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
Looking at the full list, Savea is only 3 test tries away from equalling McCaw at 27 (the most for a forward).
So far and away the best AB try scoring brothers……
Barretts second obviously ( three of them helps )
Who would be third ?
Ioane brothers on 37
Savea's on: 69
Barretts on 70.
The Smith Brothers (Conrad/Ben/Aaron) with 103 in total
Did Wayne never score a try?
We're not talking Father and son(s).
Fitzpatricks maybe up in that count.
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61 posts and no mention of Doug. lol . I would assume he was also extremely fast at amassing his tries?
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What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries? -
@Virgil said in Will Jordan's try scoring:
What the try scoring lists show is how we dont hang onto players past their prime.(or stupidly believe they are past their prime or play them out of position) Our top try scoring wings or FB's often find themselves replaced by the next big thing. Where as other countries hang onto theirs, look at Habana, Shane Williams etc.
How likely is it an All Black wing will ever play 100 tests let alone play long enough to threaten 60+ test tries?Habana and Williams probably didn’t have the absolute freakish attacking abilities that our guys did I would argue…..Jonah, Cully, Joe, Julian etc. Once that edge was lost so was their place in the team.
I know you’re a cricket fan, you could compare it to when Jeff Thomson lost his pace and unlike Hadlee and Lillee he didn’t “better” himself as a bowler to make up for it ?
J Savea is still playing but by all accounts he is a shell of his former self.
I argued this point with @Nepia and almost found myself in the awkward position of defending John Mitchell when he dropped Cullen.
( I had a cold shower afterwards )
