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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    He's ready and waiting. In Chch...

    And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills

    Isn't GB in the NH now?

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    The one that stands out would be Scott Barrett, otherwise everyone else is patchy at best.

    He's been pretty damn good in SR as well, so not sure if that counts

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    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @canefan said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    He's ready and waiting. In Chch...

    And working on George Bridge's side-stepping skills

    Isn't GB in the NH now?

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Well, on the plus side - last time we beat Ireland, a lesser and debutant version of Big Leicester was on the left wing and Fin Christie was our bench halfback.

    Our four props were George Bower and Ofa - with Big Karl and Angus on the bench.

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    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.

    yeah, the more i think about it the more it feels like fozzie just...does things....without actually thinking them through

    like, he said him self it wasn't "bad"....so unless hes fibbing you have to think LF was purely late....not brought home by the cops or anything....really feels like clean everyone's boots and get up at training and apologise territory....not miss out on the biggest game of his career to date and risk the result in the process

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.

    They only snuck out for a beer.

    Sauces close to the team inform me that Mark's problems started when he decided to the post-Uruguay fancy dress party as "Hawke's-Bay"! 🙂

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    If we count Leicester as a utility back, is this the first time in some while we don't have a specialist wing in the 23? At least we have 5 or so fullback options. The starting #15 must be exceptional!

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.

    For whatever reason, I don’t think two scenarios can be compared.

    Remember the 2007 RWC selection and Weepu, Filipo, Flavell, Schwalger all missed selection but yet Snakey got a pass. It’s arguable that only one of Filipo or Flavell would’ve made it, but it did result in Thorne getting a recall. Weepu definitely should’ve made the squad.

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    @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    If we count Leicester as a utility back, is this the first time in some while we don't have a specialist wing in the 23? At least we have 5 or so fullback options. The starting #15 must be exceptional!

    That's moving the goal posts though isn't it. Fainga'anuku has played nearly all of his rugby for the ABs on the wing, likewise for the Crusaders.

    By your argument, we don't have any specialist midfielders in the starting XV.

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    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    My thoughts too... even if it is half an hour, it doesn't matter. In the week of the biggest game of your career you shouldn't even be running it close.

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    For whatever reason, I don’t think two scenarios can be compared.

    Why not?

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    @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    My thoughts too... even if it is half an hour, it doesn't matter. In the week of the biggest game of your career you shouldn't even be running it close.

    definitely....primary responsibility rests with him....but i cant help feeling most other coaches would have made it clear how disappointed they were but inspired a player to redeem themselves on the pitch...hell, have him as one of the players doing press and own it "yeah i made a mistake....and im so glad the coach and team are giving me the chance to go out there and make it up to them"

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    @MajorRage leadership? yes! Strategy and fall back plans? yeeeaaahhh naaaahh

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    If we win does it mean Roigard's not in contention for the SF. Could be another 2 and 15 situation.

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    At least CC and EB had a nice holiday

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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by Machpants
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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Mark Telea is a tool for breaking curfew.

    As were Israel Dagg and Cory Jane days before 2011 RWC Quarterfinal. The difference was they weren't dropped.

    Except they never actually broke the rules, it just wasn't a good look. There was no policy on drinking, not was there a curfew in effect at that time. In addition the leadership group make these calls, not Foster, unless he has changed things

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    @frugby said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @nostrildamus said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    If we count Leicester as a utility back, is this the first time in some while we don't have a specialist wing in the 23? At least we have 5 or so fullback options. The starting #15 must be exceptional!

    That's moving the goal posts though isn't it. Fainga'anuku has played nearly all of his rugby for the ABs on the wing, likewise for the Crusaders.
    By your argument, we don't have any specialist midfielders in the starting XV.

    Hasn't Leicester played at 12(!) and 13 for the ABs as well?
    I get your point but I think you moved the goalposts with your last sentence as well, I said "in the 23" and you changed "my argument" to the starting 15!
    ALB on the bench is a specialist midfielder. But back to my point at AB level they are def seeing Leicester as a utility. I also wonder "nearly all his rugby"? I recall he played on midfield or wing way back in his first year at the Crusaders (2021), so it is really nearly all his rugby on the wing? Could it be closer to 70% or so?

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  • nostrildamusN Online
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    "Leicester Ofa Ki Wales Twickenham Fainga'anuku"
    We're very lucky he didn't play for Wales or England...

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    replied to nostrildamus on last edited by Chris B.
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    @nostrildamus Leicester is a wing who can play in the midfield at a pinch. Even for the Mako his starts in the midfield have been rare. He'll probably shift inwards like Tana, though, because he doesn't have elite pace.

    Jordan has played all but one of his tests on the wing,

    They're more wings (collectively) than Kahui (a centre) and Jane (a converted fullback) who had SBW covering them in 2011.

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