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    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

    There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

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    Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray. Ireland have 2 different style 9s in their 23. If NZ chose Christie, it suggests the ABs have one way of playing. What happens if it doesn't work? Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Victor-Meldrew against one of the least ponderous defences in world rugby. Good combination 😃

    You got my irony. Well done sir!

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

    There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

    There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

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    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    There is far les risk in picking Roigard than there is in picking Christie.

    There is more risk in picking Roigard, but that's more than balanced out by the bigger upside in having Roigard on the bench.

    There isn't more risk, you're making it up. What's the risk?

    In Christies case maybe sunburn even at this time of year ?

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Roigard is a similar kind of player to Conor Murray

    That's an even more bizarre take than there's less risk picking Christie.

    They are streets apart.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @Stag said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I was all for Roiguard being the right back up choice, but some of his early decision making in the last game was a bit concerning

    From memory, he did seem to run when the pass was probably the better option a few times I thought

    But I liked the way he handled his little period of yips - thought that showed a lot of maturity and composure. And I'd prefer his speed of decision making over Christie any day.

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    It’s been a looooong week

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Christie isn't exactly going to snipe round the fringe.

    Exactly. Roigard offers more overall than Christie in my book. He may not have come on in a tight game but he's worth that risk.

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    Christie is more liable to shit the bed than Roigard. Imagine if Smith got injured early and we had to watch any attack disappear, for the hope he might make one decent tackle.

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    Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)

    Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland

    The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?

    If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

    If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

    Why?

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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by Canes4life
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    @Victor-Meldrew Christie's performance stats this year don't even come close to Roigard's. Yes Roigard had a few blips in his last outing but that's all character building. He's been a far more consistent player all year and he has shown that his ceiling is, and will continue to be far higher that Christie's.

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    Crazy that 90% of the talk is about the bench nine. Fozzie at least has a settled XV (injuries aside) whether you agree with it or not Ahem Beaudy

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    @Bones said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

    Why?

    Because Christie is “experienced”

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    replied to MN5 on last edited by Canes4life
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    @MN5 experienced at being shit. Like he doesn't even look like a test halfback when he plays for the Blues.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Perhaps there’s a different way of looking at this (the Foster way)

    Foster obviously believes he can select the best 23 to beat Ireland

    The crux of this conundrum is will NZ be defending a lead or chasing the game?

    If you’re defending a lead then it’s Smith - Christie

    If you’re chasing the game, then it’s Smith- Roigard

    ABs don't generally defend leads, they still try and attack ergo Roigard all the time. Christies fringe defence can be good, but meh, that's not his main job

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    Surely Smith plays pretty much full game unless he breaks, or we are up by 20 with 5mins to go.

    If he breaks, then Roigard is the guy I want coming on. Likewise if we are behind and need to make a change, it’s Roigard.

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    @Canes4life said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @MN5 experienced at being shit. Like he doesn't even look like a test halfback when he plays for the Blues.

    Experience breeds confidence though…..

    IMG_0649.jpeg

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    @JK said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Surely Smith plays pretty much full game unless he breaks, or we are up by 20 with 5mins to go.

    If he breaks, then Roigard is the guy I want coming on. Likewise if we are behind and need to make a change, it’s Roigard.

    Nope he has not got those legs anymore, he can't do 80

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