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    @Bovidae said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Newell's inclusion would be a bigger risk than Christie. If they select the young props it makes no sense to ignore Roigard.

    Not sure I entirely agree. Newell has proved a good impact man for the All Blacks, and it is hardly like he is a worse scrummager than Laulala... who can't catch a cold when it comes to collecting passes in the midfield. Williams over Ofa is the only one, but it is the sort of bold selection we need in the pack. ABs have struggled for impact from their forwards right through the Foster era.

    Christie is allegedly a 'safe' pair of hands, but this has become the most stupid of arguments. He isn't better than Roigard, but then again, picking Roigard is also a risk because of his inexperience. It is almost as if they should have picked Brad Weber...

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Pure conjecture from a post on X:

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    Too many in that selection that don't look right to me.

    I think the second line props will be Ofa and Nepo - and they both may well start because de Groot will be undercooked and Lomax medium-rare.

    Telea ahead of Leicester and Roigard over Christie.

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    @kiwiinmelb that's what I mean not in 23

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    not to mention no Samisoni?

    How far he has fallen in the coaches estimation, when at one point he was the best 2, now rated 3rd...IMO, this is in part due to the way he has been managed and his form has fallen.

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    Ok, so the rumour is Telea has a calf niggle. Would be big if true. He’s been excellent for NZ so far in this World Cup.

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    @frugby I worry about Newell's workrate on defence, which is no better than Laulala's. Our props have a bad habit of giving away penalties for not rolling away from a tackle, and look clumsy doing so.

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    @Chris-B Can't C that side happening at all makes no sense only 1 as I said that on Monday was told Finlay a real possibility,and Talea wasn't injured at that stage

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    The minutes played is interesting and reflective of Farrell & Co's mindset - stick with the winning combo to some degree - leaving aside injuries preventing earlier introduction of some back-ups such as Henshaw, O'Brien, McCarthy. If they manage to win at weekend, he's going to have to come up with a new selection plan for playing likely Wales who Gatland has flogged into superb shape over the last few months, and have had an arguably easier ride/rotation in the pool stages. The contrasts with NZ and SA are illuminating.
    Their road could easily run out this weekend though if NZ get to turn on the pace of the game.

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    @stodders said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    @MiketheSnow Ryan was on the bench against Scotland. Henderson started.

    So Ryan out, McCarthy in is the only change.

    Strong, settled team. They are battle hardened, but they have also played a fair bit too. Compare the NZ backrow playing minutes to Ireland's:

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    Image taken from this post on X:

    https://x.com/Selfimprove_Man/status/1712014608557338881?s=20

    this is fascinating

    you might wonder if ireland have another three big games in them...but you can also see why they are so well drilled

    also see why we may not have developed our combinations well enough

    South africa look to have managed their time right in the middle....

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    Come on use fu*kas let's do this.
    3 more sleeps.
    Bit Nervy

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    The Christie selection is looking likely.

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    Roigard is the right choice

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    Our average minutes is artificially low because of the injuries to Lomax, Jordie, Cane, Frizzell and de Groot's suspension.
    Also, I can't see e.g. outside backs being knackered by this WC schedule, taking into account the games against far weaker opposition.
    However, the Irish forwards might be a bit stuffed by the time they get to play France.

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    TBH I'd start DMac at 15 and Roigard on the bench.

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    @reprobate said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    Our average minutes is artificially low because of the injuries to Lomax, Jordie, Cane, Frizzell and de Groot's suspension.
    Also, I can't see e.g. outside backs being knackered by this WC schedule, taking into account the games against far weaker opposition.
    However, the Irish forwards might be a bit stuffed by the time they get to play France.

    for me it was more the disparity in minutes between key postions

    10-12-13
    6-7-8
    9-10

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    I pray we don't go limp lettuce like 2019

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    I heard Telea broke a curfew.

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    @akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    The Christie selection is looking likely.

    Then we're fucked.

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    @akan004 said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    The Christie selection is looking likely.

    🤮

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    @Frank said in RWC QF: All Blacks v Ireland:

    I heard Telea broke a curfew.

    That would be so crazy.

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