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    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @canefan am sure they have some top medical people on it, but agree from my layman position, seems very risky.

    I heard some talk of a mask. That may be fine in basketball, but rugby is far more physically confronting. Mask or not, one big shot to the face and he's in big trouble

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    shit like this just rams home how the "focus on player safety" is purely theatre

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    sounds like an interesting tactic, I pity the fool that gets carded for an accidental brush/knock

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    @canefan said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @canefan am sure they have some top medical people on it, but agree from my layman position, seems very risky.

    I heard some talk of a mask. That may be fine in basketball, but rugby is far more physically confronting. Mask or not, one big shot to the face and he's in big trouble

    I also can't be solid, like some games have, needs to be thinner than 5mm uncompressed. SO basically pointless, I guess they might apply for an exemption with WR for something more substantial - I can't see WR saying no to that, the biggest player in the tournament

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    A protective mask worn by players with a broken nose etc is hardly something new.

    The first photo is of Biarritz No8 Imanol Harinordoquy, who played with a broken nose wearing this improvised mask in 2010 (against Munster in the Heineken Cup semi-finals).

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    The second photo is of Guido Petti, who wore a mask in the test match between Argentina and Wales in 2021.

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    The quality and design of masks will have improved over the years, but wearing one in a rugby match isn't new.

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    @bayimports yep, because after all, NH teams think people will target this and sacrifice a player to take him out

    :jokingnotjoking

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    You would have to target him if he plays , not to the head but hard physical contact within the laws .

    Why make it easy ?

    Boks won’t need reminding 😁

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    @canefan said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @canefan am sure they have some top medical people on it, but agree from my layman position, seems very risky.

    I heard some talk of a mask. That may be fine in basketball, but rugby is far more physically confronting. Mask or not, one big shot to the face and he's in big trouble

    Very Phantom of the Opera...

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    #773

    What are they calling an exit success?

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    @taniwharugby Stats can be a bit misleading, these should add up to 200% points to reach QF, not just under 400 haha
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    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    What are they calling an exit success?

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    that screams Glen Jackson

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    @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @taniwharugby Stats can be a bit misleading, these should add up to 200% points to reach QF, not just under 400 haha
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    No, because all of those teams (2 teams from each pool) are going to make the quarter finals so that's why they are each almost at 100% probability.

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    @LABCAT said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    @taniwharugby Stats can be a bit misleading, these should add up to 200% points to reach QF, not just under 400 haha
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    No, because all of those teams (2 teams from each pool) are going to make the quarter finals so that's why they are each almost at 100% probability.

    d'oh yup I was thinking semi

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    So anyone know how many games haven't had a card? It is pretty ridiculous and close games are basically being decided by inconsistent application of the high tackle laws

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    I've been trying to just ignore the impact of the card fest. But, fuck me, I just don't understand the line between yellow and red anymore. I don't even think the pro card peeps could adequately explain it either.

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    @Nepia said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    I just don't understand the line between yellow and red anymore.

    this has been the case for at least a year or so now.

    Dipping, absorbing, all sorts of defence applied, except when it isnt.

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    Are we allowed to be a bit disappointed in the performance of Samoa and Tonga in this cup?

    They have never had greater access to players than they do now. Both teams loaded with pros, including ex-Internationals from higher ranked teams. And they have been pretty ordinary. Each will probably get a soft kill to at least get a win on the board, but they haven't been great.

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Are we allowed to be a bit disappointed in the performance of Samoa and Tonga in this cup?

    They have never had greater access to players than they do now. Both teams loaded with pros, including ex-Internationals from higher ranked teams. And they have been pretty ordinary. Each will probably get a soft kill to at least get a win on the board, but they haven't been great.

    Totally agree, Fiji is almost overachieving with last-minute coach change and all sorts of (as standard) financial and governance shenanigans at the union. But Samoa and Tonga have pretty much sucked. The same can be said for Japan, I guess Joseph not getting all his players for a year-long camp this time has impacted them

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

    Are we allowed to be a bit disappointed in the performance of Samoa and Tonga in this cup?

    They have never had greater access to players than they do now. Both teams loaded with pros, including ex-Internationals from higher ranked teams. And they have been pretty ordinary. Each will probably get a soft kill to at least get a win on the board, but they haven't been great.

    The ex internationals have been fairly average across the board, including the ones that get brought up frequently as ones that NZ could do with.

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