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    akan004
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    Ardie just said that the Ireland V SA game was one of the first non ABs games he has watched.

    What a professional outfit we have here, one of our most senior players and stand in captain is not even bothered to see where the opposition is at. Sigh.

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    @Bones Allowing for Jordan not training for a few days, @george33 was spot on with the starting XV.

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    @stodders said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @voodoo The Samisoni conundrum.

    Has he fallen down the pecking order? I still feel he is most suited to the pick and go, up the guts style of forward play. But not necessarily the wide channel Fitzy like style that Taylor and Coles are more adept at.

    If that is true that he hasn't been selected because the hooker isn't going to be going up the Italian pack's guts, then I'm a tad concerned.

    2022 Samisoni is not 2023 Samisoni.

    Has he had any big impact on any game this year like he did last year? Maybe he hasn't even played, I can't remember him in any tests.

    He has no points in TSF MOTM polls. He came 2nd last year overall.

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    george33
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    @Canes4life pretty close actually, I only went by what was at training start of the week , couple minor adjustments only

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    It's a step in the right direction, but I would have liked to have been more daring (i.e DMac for BB, Blackadder for DP, LF on the bench).

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    Team looks fine and has my wholehearted support. I’m hoping the performance will be a big improvement from what we saw at Twickenham and Paris. Go Black!

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    Its about the best we can put out, I'd have LF over ALB on the bench, but thats minor.
    Pleased to see both Roigard and Mckenzie both there.

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    A much better team than it could have been with Roigard included.

    We can also see that the loose forward balance is compromised when these four are selected. Again, no real cover at no.8.

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    Machpants
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    I hope big Frizzle and big Jordie hit the ground running, outside of the props and Captain Cane, this is our top 23 - according to Foster, and what we will see versus Ireland. I want to see a coherent, accurate, disciplined smashing. C'mon boys!

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    @Canes4life said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @KiwiMurph solid 23, I’d prefer Blackadder over Papali’i’ though.

    Papali’i must be counting his lucky stars. He completely lacks any impact at this level.

    Good to see Christie has been given the boot, and good to see McKenzie on the bench.

    @george33 you were way off the money once again.

    I am like you Canes, and think Papali'i is a bit fortunate, I understand bringing Cane off bench with only partial training load, but I also would pick Blackadder ahead of him!
    I would add I not even sure I would have him at 7 for Blues if I was naming their team.

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    @Darren said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    Its about the best we can put out, I'd have LF over ALB on the bench, but thats minor.
    Pleased to see both Roigard and Mckenzie both there.

    My only change would maybe Havili over ALB, just because he (I think) fits in with RMo more.

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    @KiwiMurph said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    @Canes4life I wouldn't be so sure - for some reason Foz loves Clarke

    And he also love a persistent liability in an out of form BB

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    I'd say this b close to our quarter final 23
    Only De Groot for Williams and maybe Sami can squeeze in there over Coles barring injury of course

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    BerniesCorner
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    50 min mark bring on DMac and Roigard, double happy squad.
    (Do they still sell them Nov 5?)

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    The biggest test will be discipline and defence over the full 80.

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    taniwharugby
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    for the most part, not alot to disagree with in that, just need some boys to fire!

    On Samisoni, I personally feel that he is just one of those players that needs to be playing rugby, getting small minutes off the bench isn't conducive to getting the best out of him, but by the same token, what do you do if his form in those limited minutes isn't upto expectation.

    What I'd like to see is discipline and a consistent kicking (and chasing) effort, these are key to the ABs progressing, the rest will fall into place if they get those things right.

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    @taniwharugby said in RWC Week 4: All Blacks v Italy:

    for the most part, not alot to disagree with in that, just need some boys to fire!

    On Samisoni, I personally feel that he is just one of those players that needs to be playing rugby, getting small minutes off the bench isn't conducive to getting the best out of him, but by the same token, what do you do if his form in those limited minutes isn't upto expectation.

    What I'd like to see is discipline and a consistent kicking (and chasing) effort, these are key to the ABs progressing, the rest will fall into place if they get those things right.

    Yeah I get the impression he gets better the more he plays ,

    I remember sione lauaki was like that , would be in a purple patch of form with the chiefs , get selected in the ab squad , but not get selected to play .

    When he finally got picked to play it was like all his Motor parts had seized up from lack of activity.

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    Bovidae
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    I am blaming Foster and Ryan too. To get the best out of Taukei’aho, and use his strengths, he should be starting, but they won't do it.

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    Mattasaurus
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    BB at 15 gives me the shits now..., I feel he gets in at 1st receiver way too much and predictively opts for a low percentage play, which 8/10 times gives possession and territory away and puts us under further pressure.....which is usually followed by a card..

    let Mounga drive the game,

    I'd also be giving Blackadder a run...fail to see the appeal of Paps....he really needs a blinder IMO.. that said we're still unbalanced in the loose as our #8 (while a great player in his own right) is really a 7
    Challenging possession regularly for a starter would be a good improvement for our loosies

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