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  • sharkS Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="602507" data-time="1470131451">
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    <p>Cruden (but even he is Maori eligible I think)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Getting pretty hard to meet a full euro only definition these days.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Cruden has a Maori middle name.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="602507" data-time="1470131451"><p>Cruden (but even he is Maori eligible I think)<br><br>
    Getting pretty hard to meet a full euro only definition these days.</p></blockquote>
    Yeah. If you do a full euro, a full PI or Maori, and a mixed team, the full teams would have very few people to select from. Well the full Maori team would have nobody.

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    <p>Why would you bother? Unless I'm embarrassed because they're clearly a poach I genuinely don't care and don't notice a players ethnicity.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I probably would if a Singh or a Lee made the AB's</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Wurzel" data-cid="602506" data-time="1470131348">
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    <p>The McKenzies are Maori as</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Weber was in the Maori squad last year too.</p>

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    <p>When was the last time NZ Rugby actually produced a hard running, tackle busting white guy in the backline ?</p>
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    <p>No shit, last one I can think of is Scott "Stormy" McLeod. Other countries produce these guys in abundance......</p>

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    <p>Scott Hamilton?</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="602516" data-time="1470132683">
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    <p>Scott Hamilton?</p>
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    <p>Maybe just but my point still stands, as I said other countries who don't have the Maori and PI population make do with white guys doing this some of whom are excellent at it but NZ Rugby virtually always has a "browner" guy to do it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Case in point sharks backline being seriously short on physical presence overall.</p>

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    <p>its funny, i used to always write my "samoan" team whenever i finished my exams early..</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>15. Nanai/Toeava</p>
    <p>14. Leiua</p>
    <p>13. Nonu</p>
    <p>12. SBW</p>
    <p>11. J. Savea</p>
    <p>10. Sopoaga</p>
    <p>9. Pulu</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Funnily enough, Leiua is the only player I really rate in the Samoan team, and hes always injured.</p>

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    <p>Is it possible to select such a team anymore? I've gotten to the point when someone says player x is eligible to play for the Maori I think the same things when meeting a blond haired blue eyed Aboriginal:</p>
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    <p>Crotty's a bit swarthy.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mimic" data-cid="602516" data-time="1470132683">
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    <p>Scott Hamilton?</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Craig Innes (going back a bit) Keith Lowen.. Regan King (I think he was probably 1/16th or something...). It is odd that we don't produce more Jamie Roberts / George Norths tho'</p>

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    <p>What about a "Whitest Maoris" backline?</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Paul Tito hanging around on the wing, Cullen probably at centre by the time they found out his whakapapa. Tony Brown.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="602518" data-time="1470132890">
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    <p>Maybe just but my point still stands, as I said other countries who don't have the Maori and PI population make do with white guys doing this some of whom are excellent at it but NZ Rugby virtually always has a "browner" guy to do it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Case in point sharks backline being seriously short on physical presence overall.</p>
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    <p>Mark Robinson (the centre not the scrumhalf) when he wasn't injured? He was a bit of a unit.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Other than that, I got nothing.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="602514" data-time="1470132362">
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    <p>When was the last time NZ Rugby actually produced a hard running, tackle busting white guy in the backline ?</p>
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    <p>No shit, last one I can think of is Scott "Stormy" McLeod. Other countries produce these guys in abundance......</p>
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    <p>Because they've got no black guys to compete for places! ;)</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="gollum" data-cid="602528" data-time="1470135013"><p>
    Craig Innes (going back a bit) Keith Lowen.. Regan King (I think he was probably 1/16th or something...). It is odd that we don't produce more Jamie Roberts / George Norths tho'</p></blockquote>
    Lowen is Rarotongan. <br>
    King is Maori (I believe).<br><br>
    Craig Innes is a good example. <br><br>
    But in general I don't think we have a lot of big white hard running backs because they are earmarked as flankers early on. Whereas in countries like South Africa and England they are considered too small to play in the forwards so get shunted into the midfield.<br><br>
    A guy like Andre Snyman would have been a 7 in NZ.

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    <p>Back in the day John Gallagher. Ok he was English. But those old clips with short shorts (stubbies basically) and that white skin that required sunglasses it was so bright and reflective.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="602514" data-time="1470132362"><p>When was the last time NZ Rugby actually produced a hard running, tackle busting white guy in the backline ?<br></p></blockquote>
    <br>
    Dane Coles.....

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    Thought Horrel is Maori? Thompson?

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    <p>Matt Cooper was a very solid crash ball runner for us too. If you were looking for the AB Stirling Mortlock / Jamie Roberts he's actually pretty close</p>

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    <p>My father would say that Ian MacRae, all 86 kg of him, was the original!</p>

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