RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Huge patience. Cut out the 50:50's
DONT F*CK ABOUT IN OUR OWN HALF. KICK IT!!!....that mean changing our actual gameplan
we've literally spent the last 6 years developing a game plan of open them up quick from anywhere on the pitch or kick, of bombs and cross field kicks in our own half to catch out the rush and of offloading in and around the tackle
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Can't wrap my head around the Christie selection.
Passing: Smith > Roigard > Christie
Speed to ruck: Smith > Roigard > Christie
Kicking game: Roigard > Smith > Christie
Running game: Roigard/Smith > Christie
Defense: Christie > Roigard/SmithNot sure the one benefit outweighs the negatives.
Obviously Roigard only has two caps, but, he could have another 4 before the play offs if we pick him.
Also - a bit worried about lineout time with that backrow. Finau at 6 would have looked good right now...
Fortunately French aren't full strength, so, I back us to do the job but it'll need to be done by the starters. If it's close I worry about Christie closing out the game.
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To be optimistic, let's go back to the 2015 RWC.
The pecking order of the halfbacks at the start was (1) Smith, (2) TJP, (3) TKB. By the time the playoffs started TKB had overtaken TJP to be Smith's backup. There is time for Roigard to prove his worth before the game that really matters.
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@frugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Without knowing, I'd suggest this would be the smallest loose forward trio the All Blacks have picked in a WC match since the 90s.
It's basically the same size as the Cane/Read/Savea trio that played a few games in the last world cup (Savea at 6)
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@Kiwiwomble said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Huge patience. Cut out the 50:50's
DONT F*CK ABOUT IN OUR OWN HALF. KICK IT!!!....that mean changing our actual gameplan
we've literally spent the last 6 years developing a game plan of open them up quick from anywhere on the pitch or kick, of bombs and cross field kicks in our own half to catch out the rush and of offloading in and around the tackle
My main gripe with this is that our kicking game, especially in regards to contestable kick's is just plain awful. Half the time it appears that the team doesn't even know a contestable kick is going up (as no-one gets there to put pressure on the receiver).
The times where we do appear to know what's going on we send up a couple of people who are invariably outnumbered by the defenders .The concept of picking on a defender who's isolated and putting bodies around them to contest the kick appears to have been lost.
If there is a plan I'm finding it very difficult to follow as it appears to be "we haven't gone forward off several rucks I'm going to panic and kick it to the sidelines and hope someone chases".
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@Windows97 and sometimes as few as 3 or 4 phases
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so that's it, team is named. come on lads, feed 'em!
It's pretty much up to the players now, they are the ones who need to perform. Every single player picked is super experienced, there are zero excuses. Get in and get the job done. It's a cliche, but it's a cliche for a reason, they just need to execute.
of the "contentious" selections
I've seen DP play huge games in black, he needs to bring that. Basically play like he did against England
ALB is the most complete midfielder in the country, so he needs to find a way to contribute that compliments the guy inside him, and the guy outside him.
Everyone else would have been picked anyway, so zero reason not to step up.carn the fucking lads!
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@Duluth said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@frugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Without knowing, I'd suggest this would be the smallest loose forward trio the All Blacks have picked in a WC match since the 90s.
It's basically the same size as the Cane/Read/Savea trio that played a few games in the last world cup (Savea at 6)
Paps smaller than Reado? Surely?
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@frugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Duluth said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@frugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Without knowing, I'd suggest this would be the smallest loose forward trio the All Blacks have picked in a WC match since the 90s.
It's basically the same size as the Cane/Read/Savea trio that played a few games in the last world cup (Savea at 6)
Paps smaller than Reado? Surely?
looks a lot smaller, plays much smaller, and a completely different player. Read was a genuine power runner, and a world class lineout option. Dalton, Ardie and Cane are all 7s. Read was an 8 who could have been a decent 6 or even a decent lock.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@akan004 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
The Roigard non selection is silly but it also shows how inflexible Foster is. I really don't know why we even bothered having the ABs in SR when clearly form doesn't matter to the guy, he had already picked this AB team at the start of the year.
The same criticism can be made against Henry and Hansen for sticking with Nonu at 12 despite being crap in SR.
You're the biggest Foster fluffer in the world.
Comparing Christie to Nonu, you're reaching new lows here bud. -
If anyone, who understands rugby and have watched rugby the last 2 years, still picks Christie ahead of Roigard then they don’t deserve an opinion. Your opinion is invalid. Don’t give one. You don’t have one.
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@foobaNZ you can’t be saying Aaron smith has the same running game as Roigard. I agree with pretty much all else. Aaron smith is arguably the best halfback of all time. He’s not a world class ball runner at all. That’s not his thing.
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@Yeahtheboys I'd say Christie's speed to ruck is up there with Smith too, he seems supremely fit, its the lack of clear decision making once he gets there that lets him down.
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@Yeahtheboys Roigard does pip him there, you're right. I just didn't want to bring in to question Smith starting as my main point was Roigard > Christie. I still think Smith snipes well though.
Very few half backs score that try Roigard did last test, probably only Dupont.
