All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham
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@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
So I completely missed this game and have very little appetite to seek out any highlights etc.
However, if what I've read here, there and everywhere is true, should we be concerned about the Italy game?
Italy are a big strong team, and if they can push us around up front .... is there a real chance we don't get out of the pool?
Serious question post, not taking the piss.
Italian Rugby has made big strides in recent years. They will have been targeting that game since the draw came. They are a very proud sporting nation. Defeating the All Blacks would be their Everest.
It will be the same referee.
We should take nothing for granted.
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Is anyone watching Winning Time?
The first four episodes of the second season deal with the current NZ situation
The coach's 'system' versus a more free form, 'play what's in front of you' player led game
Different sports but the sentiment is similar
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
So I completely missed this game and have very little appetite to seek out any highlights etc.
However, if what I've read here, there and everywhere is true, should we be concerned about the Italy game?
Italy are a big strong team, and if they can push us around up front .... is there a real chance we don't get out of the pool?
Serious question post, not taking the piss.
nah
this was a perfect storm of absolutely everything going wrong all at once. And you know what? We kick that penalty with our first chance, and Scott Barrett isn't a complete idiot, and who knows how the rest of the game goes. But we missed. Scotty dived. And we were fucked.
Nothing went right, it really was incredible. I would be astounded if that many guys played that badly at the same time, and we made that many errors, again.
Until the knock out rounds...
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First one yes, 2nd one no.
They will have their qtr final and let’s see where we are at….or not as the case may be
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I thought this was a good discussion between Martin Devlin and Justin Marshall.
Marshall has really perfected the halfback stereotype hasn't he? He even dresses angry.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
So I completely missed this game and have very little appetite to seek out any highlights etc.
However, if what I've read here, there and everywhere is true, should we be concerned about the Italy game?
Italy are a big strong team, and if they can push us around up front .... is there a real chance we don't get out of the pool?
Serious question post, not taking the piss.
nah
this was a perfect storm of absolutely everything going wrong all at once. And you know what? We kick that penalty with our first chance, and Scott Barrett isn't a complete idiot, and who knows how the rest of the game goes. But we missed. Scotty dived. And we were fucked.
Nothing went right, it really was incredible. I would be astounded if that many guys played that badly at the same time, and we made that many errors, again.
It was amazing we were still in the game, and could have just been 7-3 down deep into the first half if RM kicks that sitter of a penalty. I just couldn't believe it when he missed, that's a different ball game if he kicks it. I'm far from convinced we have the team to win the thing, but we are a chance. We stormed home in TRC in games with some sort of meaning, and then lost a warm up match. Badly, but a warm up match. Talk of losses to Italy are premature.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@MajorRage said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
So I completely missed this game and have very little appetite to seek out any highlights etc.
However, if what I've read here, there and everywhere is true, should we be concerned about the Italy game?
Italy are a big strong team, and if they can push us around up front .... is there a real chance we don't get out of the pool?
Serious question post, not taking the piss.
nah
this was a perfect storm of absolutely everything going wrong all at once. And you know what? We kick that penalty with our first chance, and Scott Barrett isn't a complete idiot, and who knows how the rest of the game goes. But we missed. Scotty dived. And we were fucked.
Nothing went right, it really was incredible. I would be astounded if that many guys played that badly at the same time, and we made that many errors, again.
It was amazing we were still in the game, and could have just been 7-3 down deep into the first half if RM kicks that sitter of a penalty. I just couldn't believe it when he missed, that's a different ball game if he kicks it. I'm far from convinced we have the team to win the thing, but we are a chance. We stormed home in TRC in games with some sort of meaning, and then lost a warm up match. Badly, but a warm up match. Talk of losses to Italy are premature.
I agree that this year, when the money has been on the line we have come through
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I thought this was a good discussion between Martin Devlin and Justin Marshall.
Marshall has really perfected the halfback stereotype hasn't he? He even dresses angry.
We sat two rows back from him on Friday. Could watch replays on his monitor!
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
I thought this was a good discussion between Martin Devlin and Justin Marshall.
Marshall has really perfected the halfback stereotype hasn't he? He even dresses angry.
We sat two rows back from him on Friday. Could watch replays on his monitor!
did you feel that much more intelligent, being in the presence of such a gun commentator?
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@pakman I don't know what armband wearing clown is making those videos, but you'd think if it's going to quote the laws, it would understand them first.
Specifically that you don't have to maintain the gap after the ball is thrown in. See from 6:11
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@pakman An excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
There was a RFU directive to all referees a few years ago about the 1m gap. It’s there in the laws. The All Blacks can expect every English referee to police the 1m gap. It was frankly amazing that the ABs didn’t adapt and let themselves get penalised again and again and again for the same thing.
Two other things from that video:
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It really shows how much pressure the Ab scrum was under. Ouch!
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The referee team missed repeated neck rolls. I hope in future games other refs keep an eye out for that.
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@antipodean Look at 18:30 and 18:32. I guess the argument will be the ABs went beyond the mark of touch.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@pakman An excellent video. Thanks for sharing.
There was a RFU directive to all referees a few years ago about the 1m gap. It’s there in the laws. The All Blacks can expect every English referee to police the 1m gap. It was frankly amazing that the ABs didn’t adapt and let themselves get penalised again and again and again for the same thing.
Two other things from that video:
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It really shows how much pressure the Ab scrum was under. Ouch!
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The referee team missed repeated neck rolls. I hope in future games other refs keep an eye out for that.
Pressure much more pronounced when Barrett off. Starting eight handled themselves pretty well: penalties 2-1, albeit a couple of those could be argued the other way.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:
@antipodean Look at 18:30 and 18:32. I guess the argument will be the ABs went beyond the mark of touch.
But it seems the ABs were arguing the Boks jumper was crossing the mark of touch, which is also a penalty?
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