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    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Don't like ALB as the sole back replacement.

    Doesn't exactly scream impact to me.

    He did not have impact as a starter in 2019!

    Prefer Havili?

    No not him either.

    Someone with some wheels.

    Clarke????

    Id be thinking along the lines of DMAC, Leicester, Narawa, (Stevenson if selected). Im not a Clarke fan to be honest, but he'd be the next cab off my rank I suppose.

    The more we read his name in AB threads, the more he is taking on Ngatai status…

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Excited to see Moodie at 13.

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    Just noticed that Marx is starting. I thought he had developed into a second half specialist?

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Excited to see Moodie at 13.

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    Just noticed that Marx is starting. I thought he had developed into a second half specialist?

    He's the Samisoni Taukei'aho of the Bokke ... is he better starting or finishing ...

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    @Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.

    In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany.

    Pendatic alert. Mt Smart was the venue of the earlier game this year. Albany was 2017.

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    Foster said Codie Taylor has a minor hamstring niggle.

    In reference to Roigard, he also said his inclusion is simply to give him more game time and that he thought Christie did well in Dunedin. But then said the Bok game is "another chance for us to look at another option."

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    I think Samisoni should be starting

    I get what you're saying, but at what stage are you dragging him? And putting the inferior player on?

    Around the time they (apart from this week) inflict Malcolm Marx on us?

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.

    In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany.

    Pendatic alert. Mt Smart was the venue of the earlier game this year. Albany was 2017.

    Not pedantic at all. I mt bloody stupidly assumed mt smart was just the name of the stadium in Albany.

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    @Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.

    In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany.

    Pendatic alert. Mt Smart was the venue of the earlier game this year. Albany was 2017.

    Not pedantic at all. I mt bloody stupidly assumed mt smart was just the name of the stadium in Albany.

    And just to confuse you further, Mt Smart is now known officially as Go Media Stadium

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    Athletic Park to Cake tin was a bit of a jump

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    @canefan it also doesn’t look like it’s near a mountain?

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    @Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @canefan it also doesn’t look like it’s near a mountain?

    It's named after the volcanic cone of the same name. Most of the volcanic cones in the Auckland volcanic field are named Mt

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    @Smuts The volcanic cone (a hill rather than a mountain) was quarried away.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Smuts The volcanic cone (a hill rather than a mountain) was quarried away.

    A bit like [Three] Kings in Auckland!

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    @Smuts said in All Blacks vs Springboks - Twickenham:

    Best way to blunt our pack is to shift it around by giving the ball heaps of air. Especially if your kick chase is good and we’re as bad under the ball as we were in Albany.

    In other words, same blueprint as the first 20 in Albany.

    Pendatic alert. Mt Smart was the venue of the earlier game this year. Albany was 2017.

    SA may wish revenge for that, too!

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  • SmutsS Offline
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    #178

    Can’t want revenge for a deserved spanking

    Edit: as my housemaster wisely told me (often): say thank you sir and learn your lesson

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    @Smuts I thought the Boks enjoyed spanking each other…….

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    Touché

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    Sam Cane did a press conference earlier today with goal kicking training going on in the background.

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    @booboo when the stats say he's knackered to the extent that his performance is worse than the bloke replacing him - which is reasonably similar across most teams, so yeah. Marx is a pain at the breakdown, and particularly Taylor but also Coles are both quick and competent in that area, so I would see them as a decent counter to Marx. That sort of tactical 'match our starter/bench to counter the opposition' is pretty clearly not Foster's thinking though is it? He's doing it against Australia, and I don't think their reserve hooker warrants a tactical selection to counter him.
    The worry is that when we get beaten, it is usually because a rush defence gets on top of us and we can't create go-forward. Samisoni and Frizzell are the two guys who can do something about that in the current pack, so starting neither of them seems to lack balance. At least we now have Jordie Barrett at 12, whereas previously our going-backwards forwards would pass their shit static ball to the lightweight Smith, Mo'unga and Havili - who would go further backwards.

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    @reprobate there’s also the mix and balance of the two front rows we select. If for example they persist with Laulala as the bench option then I think we need an active ball carrying front rower (like Sami T) with him.

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