RWC warmup - England v Wales
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Wales:
15. Liam Williams, 14. Josh Adams, 13. Joe Roberts, 12. Nick Tompkins, 11. Tom Rogers, 10. Owen Williams, 9. Tomos Williams, 1. Gareth Thomas, 2. Dewi Lake (capt), 3. Tomas Francis, 4. Rhys Davies, 5. Adam Beard, 6. Dan Lydiate, 7. Tommy Reffell, 8. Taine Plumtree.Replacements: 16. Sam Parry, 17. Kemsley Mathias, 18. Dillon Lewis, 19. Christ Tshiunza, 20. Taine Basham, 21. Kieran Hardy, 22. Dan Biggar, 23. Keiran Williams.
Date: Saturday, August 12
Venue: Twickenham Stadium
Kick-off: 17:30 BST (16:30 GMT)
Referee: Nika Amashukeli (Georgia)
Assistant Referees: Andrew Brace (Ireland), Andrea Piardi (Italy)
TMO: Marius van der Westhuizen (South Africa) -
Taine Plumtree - from the Wellington bench to starting at Twickers in the 8 Jersey once worn by the great Mervyn Davies.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC warmup - England v Wales -:
Taine Plumtree - from the Wellington bench to starting at Twickers in the 8 Jersey once worn by the great Mervyn Davies.
To the Manor Born last weekend
There's a reason he's going to the RWC and Dombrandt is staying home
And no, it's not because he's playing for Wales
Workrate
The kid was into everything as soon as he came on
Excited to see what he can do
Got some talented centres having their first chance too
Big match for Lydiate
Even bigger match for Tshiunza who was disappointing last weekend
Great to see Basham back
And last chance saloon for Hardy after Gareth Davies' performance last weekend
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@MiketheSnow I may have seen him play 8 once but it would be his third position after 6/lock. He does have a good turn of pace so I hope he can get a gallop in the open at some point.
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If he continues to perform and improve and Faletau doesn't recover from his calf injury then Plumtree could well see himself on the bench for the important matches, even starting
At the moment it looks like Gatland will choose Lydiate at 6, Jac Morgan at 7 and Faletau at 8
If Lydiate isn't on form then he could consider Wainwright or Refell at 6. Most probably Wainwright
If Faletau remains injured, then it would be Lydiate/Refell, Morgan, Wainwright
In all those situations, Plumtree is a great bench option because he covers lock, blindside and No 8
And if he's on fire he could make the 6 shirt his own
Exciting times
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@MiketheSnow Listening to the Rugby Podcast and Hamilton and Goode were frothing over the balance of the Welsh back row in last weeks game and talking about Tshuinza initially felt he was a bit quiet but then Hamiltaon asked whether that was the case or was it just that he seemed quiet compared to the other two?
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@Catogrande said in RWC warmup - England v Wales -:
@MiketheSnow Listening to the Rugby Podcast and Hamilton and Goode were frothing over the balance of the Welsh back row in last weeks game and talking about Tshuinza initially felt he was a bit quiet but then Hamiltaon asked whether that was the case or was it just that he seemed quiet compared to the other two?
Quiet IMHO
He's going to have to do something really special to get a look in
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
Taine Plumtree - from the Wellington bench to starting at Twickers in the 8 Jersey once worn by the great Mervyn Davies.
His form dropped off in 2022
The guy that was on the bench for Wellington was very different from the guy who was pushing Tom Robinson for a spot in the Blues earlier in the year
Seems to be back to his early Blues form now
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That's England's best team with the exception of Curry
Let's see how it goes then
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If we don't win this one, where the hell do we go?
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Jonny Hill on the bench despite not being in the squad. I'm guessing neither Chessum nor Ribbans is fit and that Lawes is not going to play lock ever again.
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@Catogrande said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
Jonny Hill on the bench despite not being in the squad. I'm guessing neither Chessum nor Ribbans is fit and that Lawes is not going to play lock ever again.
That's a real left field selection and/or those boys won't make it and Hill is battled hardened
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What a woeful half of rugby.
Wales lose Lake to injury whilst England lose JVP.
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6-0 to England at halftime
Garland will be far happier than Borthwick
MOTM so far, the Georgian ref
Just one dubious call right at the end of the half when he awarded a penalty to Wales then to England when Wales was still on advantage
Amazing rate of improvement since his first test last year
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
Just one dubious call right at the end of the half when he awarded a penalty to Wales then to England when Wales was still on advantage
No just me then. It was truly weird reffing.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
Just one dubious call right at the end of the half when he awarded a penalty to Wales then to England when Wales was still on advantage
No just me then. It was truly weird reffing.
And to compound it the YC to Reffell was bullshit
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One for the team
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Welsh lineout a bit shit.
Edit: Both teams look a bit shit across the field.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
One for the team
I get that if it was a penalty
But it was a legal turnover
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This Georgian ref doesn't mind dishing out cards
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Looks like England will have 3 in the bin
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Owen you dopey boy.
Suspension incoming?
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About time
Borthwick is in the shit
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Absolute filth from Owen Farrell.
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That was brilliant from England
And absolutely retarded from Wales
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That's one of the worst exits you'll ever see by Wales.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
One for the team
I get that if it was a penalty
But it was a legal turnover
Certainly a harsh/borderline decision, but whatever, a poor outcome for Reffel, who had been good I thought.
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
About time
Borthwick is in the shit
He's been in the shit for some time now but perhaps now he can actually smell it.
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We’re going to lose this
Dumbest rugby I’ve ever seen from Wales
And I’ve seen my fair share
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Earl MOTM
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If this Georgian ref gets a knockout game.... fuck me dead.....
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Farrell's been bloody lucky with his high tackling so far and the luck was bound to run out. The timing for Borthwick is appalling but the grub deserved it
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Just before England lost the first of their team to the bin I was thinking both teams were as poor as each other, but England have been the better of the two in the last 20 mins.
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@Victor-Meldrew Everyone’s known he is an absolute grub for years, but England kept picking him and indulging him.
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Without the slightest bit of arrogance, I think SA, Oz or the AB's would put 50+ points on these teams today.
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One of the weirdest games I've seen for years.
Think Borthwick will take more out of that than Gatland, but both teams have a heck of a lot of work to do.
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How can Wales not beat a side with 12 men on the field?
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@sparky said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:
How can Wales not beat a side with 12 men on the field?
Absolutely dumbfounded
Dumbest shit I’ve seen since Wales thought it would be a good idea to play 7s against Fiji in Nantes
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