Australia v All Blacks - Bled I
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@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@mariner4life said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@TheMojoman said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
They’re not being subtle, they’re going to take us on upfront, try to stop the AB gain line, flood the breakdown to mess up our ball. They’ve got the personnel to do it, will be interesting to watch.
Sounds similar to the game plan for RWC 03 Semi Final. That day he targeted Jerry Collins as he was the primary ball carrier. I wonder if Frizell is in for similar treatment on Saturday.
he was the ONLY ball carrier in the team. Nothing else in the pack, nothing in the backline. As physically an unimposing team as you can put together.
Roko whilst green had been a try scoring machine and beating defenders at will. Mils at centre and Rangi at fullback and I think that lineup plays better.
Mils played a bit of 13 for the blues that year as well when they went for the option of having all of dougie rok and rupeni on the field at the same time .
I can remember them saying they thought the back 3 had been such a weapon on counter attack they didn’t want to break it up, ended up being a mute point, wallabies didn’t kick it to them anyway.
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@Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
3 games to the RWC and we haven't seen Leicester, Stevenson, McCleod or Finau.
Leicester = injured, Stevenson = not in squad, McLeod = really only there to cover ALB missing, Finau = cruelled by the fact Frizzle learned how to beat up on the field as well as in clubs.
We will see Leicester in Dunedin if recovered, might see Finau (rest Frizzle/Jacobsen shits the bed) but if ALB goes well we won't see McLeod, def won't see Stevenson
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@Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
3 games to the RWC and we haven't seen Leicester, Stevenson, McCleod or Finau.
Leicester = injured, Stevenson = not in squad, McLeod = really only there to cover ALB missing, Finau = cruelled by the fact Frizzle learned how to beat up on the field as well as in clubs.
We will see Leicester in Dunedin if recovered, might see Finau (rest Frizzle/Jacobsen shits the bed) but if ALB goes well we won't see McLeod, def won't see Stevenson
It only makes sense to me if they see Jordan as the back up fb .
Then it becomes alb midfield cover , Clarke back 3 cover .
And if that’s the case , it’s unfortunate narewa and leister are unavailable , narewa would be the better choice for me because he plays right , less disruption .
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@Duluth said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Eddie vs All Blacks as head coach
Team Years Wins Losses Draws Wallabies 2001-2005 5 6 0 Japan 2012-2015 0 1 0 England 2016-2022 1 1 1 Overall 2001-2022 6 8 1 Is gotta be one of the best percentages ever
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Interesting to compare both 2003 and 2019. Both times we simply got beaten up by a much more physical and direct side. We also got all clever with selections (Mortlock vs Rangi was rape). Both times it was that sinking feeling that we were getting squeezed to death and were clueless and powerless to stop it.
While IMHO every Bled game is a potential banana skin I think the ABs are in pretty good shape for this one and the forwards in particular look far sharper under Ryan. Who knows what Eddie has in his bag of di..tricks , but at least this time I can't see us getting beaten up.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel although IMO the 2003 test was lost on the back of that TMO decision, had that try been awarded, that loss would unlikely have occurred.
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@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Rancid-Schnitzel although IMO the 2003 test was lost on the back of that TMO decision, had that try been awarded, that loss would unlikely have occurred.
I don't know. The ABs were so impotent in that game. I've obviously only seen it once but I remember Joe Rok desperately trying to do something by going a crash ball. They had nothing.
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@Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Duluth said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Eddie vs All Blacks as head coach
Team Years Wins Losses Draws Wallabies 2001-2005 5 6 0 Japan 2012-2015 0 1 0 England 2016-2022 1 1 1 Overall 2001-2022 6 8 1 Is gotta be one of the best percentages ever
Glad I checked before I #booboo'ed 😀
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@taniwharugby @Rancid-Schnitzel
There will be an excellent article on the TSF front page including analysis of this game, and some of the build up in about 10 days ...
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@Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Duluth said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Eddie vs All Blacks as head coach
Team Years Wins Losses Draws Wallabies 2001-2005 5 6 0 Japan 2012-2015 0 1 0 England 2016-2022 1 1 1 Overall 2001-2022 6 8 1 Is gotta be one of the best percentages ever
We were lucky to snag that one win vs Eddie's England too if memory serves - remember Perenara got charged down by Lawes who was just offside when they went to TMO so the English try was disallowed. I believe that was the game DMac started at fullback and had a blinder in the rain.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Duluth said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Eddie vs All Blacks as head coach
Team Years Wins Losses Draws Wallabies 2001-2005 5 6 0 Japan 2012-2015 0 1 0 England 2016-2022 1 1 1 Overall 2001-2022 6 8 1 Is gotta be one of the best percentages ever
We were lucky to snag that one win vs Eddie's England too if memory serves - remember Perenara got charged down by Lawes who was just offside when they went to TMO so the English try was disallowed. I believe that was the game DMac started at fullback and had a blinder in the rain.
Good memory
Here's the TSF match page: https://thesilverfern.com/match/?id=2018-11-10-england-allblacks
..and the highlights:
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I guess B Smith lost a bet at rugbypass and was forced to write an article talking up the Wallabies chances
Why a Wallabies win over the All Blacks wouldn't be a shock
Should the All Blacks beat the Wallabies? Yes, they should, but it feels like that every time. It's been three years since their last win.
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two scheduled games against England in 6 years. And both away.
The touring schedules really are fucked.
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@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Steve said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
3 games to the RWC and we haven't seen Leicester, Stevenson, McCleod or Finau.
Leicester = injured, Stevenson = not in squad, McLeod = really only there to cover ALB missing, Finau = cruelled by the fact Frizzle learned how to beat up on the field as well as in clubs.
We will see Leicester in Dunedin if recovered, might see Finau (rest Frizzle/Jacobsen shits the bed) but if ALB goes well we won't see McLeod, def won't see Stevenson
It only makes sense to me if they see Jordan as the back up fb .
For the squad - I reckon DMac is Beaudy's back-up i.e. if Beaudy gets injured, DMac slots in - they're the most like-for-like.
For this game, either Will or Jordie can cover fullback.
If we get comfortably ahead this week we might well see Richie subbed, Beaudy to first five and Will to fullback - allowing Fozzie to kill several birds with one stone.
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Something to consider on the Stevenson over Clarke debate... it is all about covering not just positions, but roles in the case of an injury. I think they want someone like for like for Telea if he goes down. Rieko could provide that, but that requires changing their midfield, which ideally they don't want to do. The way the ABs backline lines up, 11 and 12/13 are the two positions that need to be covered on the bench.
