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    That is a worry about Wills migraine preventing him from travelling even is it is precautionary.

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  • Canes4lifeC Online
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    Awesome about Tevita, hopefully he takes his chance. He’s been going under the radar a little the last few years but I think he has the ability to mature like Lomax has with the right coaching.

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    #2062

    @nzzp

    Man, imagine the meltdown if that happens, Foster moves to coach Scotland or Japan and they beat us on a off-day.

    Def. not going to happen of course....

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    #2063
    Exclusive: Early World Cup boost as All Blacks win right to wear black
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    #2064

    ABs to wear black jersey in pool games.

    Handy shandy won the toss off in Paris

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    Nice work, especially versus colour change France

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2023:

    Exclusive: Early World Cup boost as All Blacks win right to wear black

    Only game it should affect is the Frogs, who are obviously intimidated by the Blackness they changed their jersey colour to try and put us off.

    Italy, Uruguay and Namibia all variations on light blue.

    tournament hosts, who traditionally wear dark blue

    Bollocks

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Mr-Fish I guess Fozzie could do anything - but, I'm inclined to think he'll run out what he thinks is close to his strongest available team. Which isn't too much different to what you've got here.

    Beauden to fullback and Richie (or DMac) at first five. I'll be annoyed if he gives BB any test starts at first five.

    Samisoni and Cane into the pack.

    If his first choice RWC 6 is going to be SBarrett (and I think it will be), I'd like to see him play there as much as possible, but he likely won't for this one.

    Scooter's locked at 6 when Brodie & Sam are available.

    Here's hoping this is the top 23 come World Cup time:

    1 De Groot
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Lomax
    4 Rettalick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Barrett
    7 Papalii
    8 Savea
    9 Smith
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Fainga'anuku
    12 Barrett
    13 Ioane
    14 Narawa
    15 Jordan

    16 Taylor
    17 Newell
    18 Williams
    19 Vaa'i
    20 Finau
    21 Roigard
    22 McKenzie
    23 Lienert-Brown

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    replied to kiwi_expat on last edited by Chris B.
    #2068

    @kiwi_expat I wouldn't mind that - but, unless Sam Cane gets broken, he's going to be at 7.

    I reckon plan will be Jordan at 14 and Beauden at 15 - might change.

    I hope Ethan Blackadder will be back in the mix (and in the 20 jersey).

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    replied to Chris B. on last edited by kiwi_expat
    #2069

    @Chris-B as I said not the team Fozzie will pick, but I can hope.

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    @kiwi_expat exactly the team that I want to see

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    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Mr-Fish I guess Fozzie could do anything - but, I'm inclined to think he'll run out what he thinks is close to his strongest available team. Which isn't too much different to what you've got here.

    Beauden to fullback and Richie (or DMac) at first five. I'll be annoyed if he gives BB any test starts at first five.

    Samisoni and Cane into the pack.

    If his first choice RWC 6 is going to be SBarrett (and I think it will be), I'd like to see him play there as much as possible, but he likely won't for this one.

    Scooter's locked at 6 when Brodie & Sam are available.

    Here's hoping this is the top 23 come World Cup time:

    1 De Groot
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Lomax
    4 Rettalick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Barrett
    7 Papalii
    8 Savea
    9 Smith
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Fainga'anuku
    12 Barrett
    13 Ioane
    14 Narawa
    15 Jordan

    16 Taylor
    17 Newell
    18 Williams
    19 Vaa'i
    20 Finau
    21 Roigard
    22 McKenzie
    23 Lienert-Brown

    I just can’t see BB missing a bench spot, rightly or wrongly. Maybe Jordan to 14, DMac to 15, BB to the bench and Narawa misses out?

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    #2072

    @voodoo @kiwi_expat did say it it wasn;t what fozzie would pick

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    #2073

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Mr-Fish I guess Fozzie could do anything - but, I'm inclined to think he'll run out what he thinks is close to his strongest available team. Which isn't too much different to what you've got here.

    Beauden to fullback and Richie (or DMac) at first five. I'll be annoyed if he gives BB any test starts at first five.

    Samisoni and Cane into the pack.

    If his first choice RWC 6 is going to be SBarrett (and I think it will be), I'd like to see him play there as much as possible, but he likely won't for this one.

    Scooter's locked at 6 when Brodie & Sam are available.

    Here's hoping this is the top 23 come World Cup time:

    1 De Groot
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Lomax
    4 Rettalick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Barrett
    7 Papalii
    8 Savea
    9 Smith
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Fainga'anuku
    12 Barrett
    13 Ioane
    14 Narawa
    15 Jordan

    16 Taylor
    17 Newell
    18 Williams
    19 Vaa'i
    20 Finau
    21 Roigard
    22 McKenzie
    23 Lienert-Brown

    From my armchair there are three main reasons why they pick Scooter at 6 - he’s playing well and he has a big motor. Allows us to play our two experienced locks who are still playing at a decent level. And finally allows us to pick two loosies on the bench if we need to really up the tempo.

    So no need to pick Vaa’i.

    The way I see it is that Frizell and Finau are competing for one bench spot and Papali’i and Blackadder the other. Jacobsen there for cover for Ardie. A lot of this comes down to how they want to use Cane and Ardie.

    In those games where we can rest one of the frontliners this will obviously change.

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    #2074

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:

    @kiwi_expat said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Mr-Fish I guess Fozzie could do anything - but, I'm inclined to think he'll run out what he thinks is close to his strongest available team. Which isn't too much different to what you've got here.

    Beauden to fullback and Richie (or DMac) at first five. I'll be annoyed if he gives BB any test starts at first five.

    Samisoni and Cane into the pack.

    If his first choice RWC 6 is going to be SBarrett (and I think it will be), I'd like to see him play there as much as possible, but he likely won't for this one.

    Scooter's locked at 6 when Brodie & Sam are available.

    Here's hoping this is the top 23 come World Cup time:

    1 De Groot
    2 Taukei'aho
    3 Lomax
    4 Rettalick
    5 Whitelock
    6 Barrett
    7 Papalii
    8 Savea
    9 Smith
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Fainga'anuku
    12 Barrett
    13 Ioane
    14 Narawa
    15 Jordan

    16 Taylor
    17 Newell
    18 Williams
    19 Vaa'i
    20 Finau
    21 Roigard
    22 McKenzie
    23 Lienert-Brown

    From my armchair there are three main reasons why they pick Scooter at 6 - he’s playing well and he has a big motor. Allows us to play our two experienced locks who are still playing at a decent level. And finally allows us to pick two loosies on the bench if we need to really up the tempo.

    So no need to pick Vaa’i.

    The way I see it is that Frizell and Finau are competing for one bench spot and Papali’i and Blackadder the other. Jacobsen there for cover for Ardie. A lot of this comes down to how they want to use Cane and Ardie.

    In those games where we can rest one of the frontliners this will obviously change.

    I also think if we look at the loosies as a combination , if Cane and Ardie are there starting, he adds a bit of whats missing

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  • Windows97W Offline
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    #2075

    Scooter could be a world-class lock, or a carthorse at 6 so it makes perfect sense that Fozzie would pick the carthorse option for his career development.

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    replied to Windows97 on last edited by
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    @Windows97 i think he's a little better at 6 that "carthorse"...but i agree he could be a world class lock

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    @Kiwiwomble embellished for the sake of humor. He's probably the best 6 in the squad, which given we've had 4 years to find a specialist 6 since the last RWC and now looking to play scooter at 6 again for this cycle is kind of sad/disappointing/frustrating.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    #2078

    Playing a lock at six seems to be this generations version of playing a fullback at centre that other AB coaches have tried and failed in the past.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2023:

    Playing a lock at six seems to be this generations version of playing a fullback at centre that other AB coaches have tried and failed in the past.

    Yep, but playing fullbacks at centre not always a failure. Same as locks at 6, have a wee peek at Itoje, Courtney Lawes atc, do the job pretty well too.

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