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    What the All Blacks expect from ‘passionate’ Los Pumas

    What the All Blacks expect from ‘passionate’ Los Pumas

    Assistant coach Jason Ryan is expecting a “passionate” and “aggressive” Los Pumas side when the All Blacks open their Rugby Championship campaign against Argentina this weekend.

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    What's the likely team for the match? Will Foster give the guys who played in the final reduced minutes (where possible)?

    Perhaps...
    1 De Groot
    2 Coles
    3 Lomax
    4 Barrett
    5 Retallick
    6 Frizell
    7 Papalii
    8 Savea
    9 Smith
    10 Barrett
    11 Clarke
    12 Barrett
    13 Ioane
    14 Narawa
    15 Stevenson

    16 Taylor
    17 Tuungafasi
    18 Laulala
    19 Lord
    20 Finau
    21 Roigard
    22 Mo'unga
    23 McLeod

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    @Mr-Fish I guess Fozzie could do anything - but, I'm inclined to think he'll run out what he thinks is close to his strongest available team. Which isn't too much different to what you've got here.

    Beauden to fullback and Richie (or DMac) at first five. I'll be annoyed if he gives BB any test starts at first five.

    Samisoni and Cane into the pack.

    If his first choice RWC 6 is going to be SBarrett (and I think it will be), I'd like to see him play there as much as possible, but he likely won't for this one.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Mr-Fish I guess Fozzie could do anything - but, I'm inclined to think he'll run out what he thinks is close to his strongest available team. Which isn't too much different to what you've got here.

    Beauden to fullback and Richie (or DMac) at first five. I'll be annoyed if he gives BB any test starts at first five.

    Samisoni and Cane into the pack.

    If his first choice RWC 6 is going to be SBarrett (and I think it will be), I'd like to see him play there as much as possible, but he likely won't for this one.

    Yeah the problem with it is every time one of the ageing locks gets a niggle ( which is likely ) he goes back into lock so it’ becomes musical chairs

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    @kiwiinmelb Probably they should bite the bullet in this game and start either Vaai or Lord, if SB really is their man for 6.

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    @Chris-B does SB or Sam call the lineouts for Crusaders and or ABs?*
    If SB is the #1 6 but called to lock if Sam or BBBR are injured (and surely Scott is in the top 3 locks in the country) doesn't that upset the loosies? And if he calls the lineouts when lock, isn't he and the lineout messed around when shifting between 6 and lock?

    *I just vaguely recall reading somewhere he was the lineout general but I cannot remember if it was for Crusaders or ABs...

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    Finau at 6 plz

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    @KiwiMurph I would be happy with that too mate!!

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    @Mr-Fish Please I dont want to suffer a Frizzle at 6

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    @Chris-B Not greatly worried about not playing Will Jordan as it is a chance for Narrawa and in particular Shaun Stevenson to show what he can do. Really hoping he gets game time. He probably outplayed Will Jordan in the final, with a great kicking game and accumulated some descent running metres. Will Jordan may have been ahead slightly on defence. Angry Chiefs players with lots to play for in the All Blacks jumper.

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    I hope that the return travel plans from Argentina are more organised than what was required to get there. Although the majority of the squad left yesterday, others were spread over three other flights from Friday.

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    @Mr-Fish said in Argentina v All Blacks:

    15 Stevenson

    I think they'll go with an experienced player at 15. McKenzie or one of the Barretts.

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    I think somehow that the coaches would of noticed Stevenson's 'catch and release' trick in final etc, just his little slip that happens in his game at times.

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    @Duluth I'll be pretty surprised if it's not Beaudy.

    He's been fullback for four of the last 6 tests and wasn't available for one of the others (Japan).

    He's pretty much the incumbent.

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    @Bovidae said in Argentina v All Blacks:

    I hope that the return travel plans from Argentina are more organised than what was required to get there. Although the majority of the squad left yesterday, others were spread over three other flights from Friday.

    I wouldn't mind betting some will leave even befoe the test?

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    If you have 2 of Richie/DMac/Beaudie in the starting XV that opens up Stevenson as a bench option that covers wing/fullback and another bench player covering midfield

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    @KiwiMurph said in Argentina v All Blacks:

    If you have 2 of Richie/DMac/Beaudie in the starting XV that opens up Stevenson as a bench option that covers wing/fullback and another bench player covering midfield

    Possibility, but I'm inclined to think they'll stick DMac on the bench.

    I'm expecting:
    Smith, Moúnga, Clarke, JBarrett, Ioane, Narawa, BBarrett
    Christie, DMac, Ennor

    With likelihood of others making the bench - in order - Roigard for Christie, McLeod for Ennor, Stevenson for DMac.

    If DMac starts at 10, Stevenson probably makes the bench.

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    @Chris-B said in Argentina v All Blacks:

    I'll be pretty surprised if it's not Beaudy.

    Yes, expect the conservative selection.

    I don't see the point of having DMac on the bench if Mo'unga starts at 10 and BB is at fullback. That only tells me that they don't rate BB as a 10, and reduces the options in the 23.

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    @Chris-B Yeah fair call. They only have 2 tests to take a look at Stevenson before Telea returns.

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    I think they are likely to go SS at 14, they do like thier wing/fb, whereas I reckon Narawa off the bench could be lethal.

    And as above, if you have 2 of RM, Dmac and BB in the 23 not to mention JB, you have plenty of room for SS and Narawa.

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