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    cgrant
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    No Josh Lord on the team sheet is a big surprise for me as he was coming back strongly. I thought his lineout expertise would have been welcome against the Brumbies giant locks.

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    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

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    @Bovidae said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

    Yeah, can understand it, just thought he looked to offer a heck of a lot more than Vaai, and surely if they rate Vaai he provides the same cover from the bench, especially when you have PGS there anyway?

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    Read the email of team announcement from Chiefs and stopped when they said loose forward trio unchanged. Ouch! Thankfully they had it wrong and Luke J is at 8. I agree with the the team named as best available.

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    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

    Yeah, can understand it, just thought he looked to offer a heck of a lot more than Vaai, and surely if they rate Vaai he provides the same cover from the bench, especially when you have PGS there anyway?

    Lord should be back in the AB frame IMO. Showed real physicality and would be a good back up to Retallick.

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    Nepia
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    @ARHS said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    Read the email of team announcement from Chiefs and stopped when they said loose forward trio unchanged. Ouch! Thankfully they had it wrong and Luke J is at 8. I agree with the the team named as best available.

    Wasn't Luke J actually named to start at 8 last week, but was swapped out before kick off? (Or did I just make that up in my head?)

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    @Nepia

    I missed the start of the game, but I'd heard he had a stomach ache and so was moved to the bench

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    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

    Yeah, can understand it, just thought he looked to offer a heck of a lot more than Vaai, and surely if they rate Vaai he provides the same cover from the bench, especially when you have PGS there anyway?

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

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    Heading along to this one with the lads - very much looking forward to it regardless of the result (though the beer will taste a lot better if we win).

    I can then also give my expert "I was there" opinion on here afterwards should I care to disagree with complete strangers on the internet, of course watching in between chatting with the lads and complaining about the cost of aforementioned beers.

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    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

    Yeah, can understand it, just thought he looked to offer a heck of a lot more than Vaai, and surely if they rate Vaai he provides the same cover from the bench, especially when you have PGS there anyway?

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

    I think Vai'i has had one of his better seasons, he was good in the pre season and has carried his form through the competition.

    I do wonder however that with the absence of the SA sides that dynamic/lighter/mobile locks don't get shown up by the brute physicality of the SA sides and hence "look better"?

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    Crucial
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    @Windows97 said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

    Yeah, can understand it, just thought he looked to offer a heck of a lot more than Vaai, and surely if they rate Vaai he provides the same cover from the bench, especially when you have PGS there anyway?

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

    I think Vai'i has had one of his better seasons, he was good in the pre season and has carried his form through the competition.

    I do wonder however that with the absence of the SA sides that dynamic/lighter/mobile locks don't get shown up by the brute physicality of the SA sides and hence "look better"?

    Vaa'i needs to be compared with a young Whitelock not with BBBR. In that regard he is doing his job.
    Lord looks to be the BBBR replacement and he should get a good run at that job next season.

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    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

    I don't think it's the fern, I think it's mostly just me.

    He's just really underwhelming. Let's just say, he reminds me of Frizzel, especially when carting it up.

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    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

    I don't think it's the fern, I think it's mostly just me.

    He's just really underwhelming. Let's just say, he reminds me of Frizzel, especially when carting it up.

    I'm technically blind without my contacts, I'll send you a pair as I think you may be undiagnosed technically blind too.

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    So has Lord picked up a niggle, or just not considered good enough by McMillan?

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    @Jailbreak7 said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So has Lord picked up a niggle, or just not considered good enough by McMillan?

    Just not enough room for everyone.
    NAK gets the bench as he can cover 6

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    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

    I don't think it's the fern, I think it's mostly just me.

    He's just really underwhelming. Let's just say, he reminds me of Frizzel, especially when carting it up.

    I'm technically blind without my contacts, I'll send you a pair as I think you may be undiagnosed technically blind too.

    Why's that? You got some post contact metres and broken tackle stats to make my eyes pop? I'd be delighted if you could show me the dominant hits and blockbusting runs you're seeing. I might even be happy to just see him drive through a ruck.

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    Mr Fish
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    Lord left the field last week with a knock so it's entirely possible he's unavailable for this week's fixture (which would be disappointing).

    The Chiefs didn't list their unavailable players this week (perhaps just an oversight).

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    Bovidae
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    Lord has probably played less than 100 mins all season.

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    @Nepia said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bovidae said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    @Bones said in SF: Chiefs vs. Brumbies:

    So is Lord just dropped? Ouch.

    Refer to my earlier post. If Lord doesn't start he won't be on the bench as a specialist lock with the utility value of Ah Kuoi.

    Yeah, can understand it, just thought he looked to offer a heck of a lot more than Vaai, and surely if they rate Vaai he provides the same cover from the bench, especially when you have PGS there anyway?

    I've found the recent Fern underrating of Vai'i a bit weird. He's put together a decent amount of tests and has always performed for the Chiefs. (Which is not discounting Lord, I expect next year they'll complement each other in the Chiefs engine room).

    I go along, I personally think Vai'i has played bloody well all year. And like you that in no way taking anything away fron Lord, who I also think has looked bloody good, but hasn't had a lot of game time. Lord actually looks to me like he has filled out a bit this year too!

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