QF: Chiefs v Reds
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@Chris said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Look not bagging the dude just mentioning if he had kicked that 7 points maybe the result would have been different.
Well you can't add missed penalties because the game entirely changes if he kicks the penalty (halfway restart etc).
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@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Chris said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Look not bagging the dude just mentioning if he had kicked that 7 points maybe the result would have been different.
Well you can't add missed penalties because the game entirely changes if he kicks the penalty (halfway restart etc).
Even conversions IMO. Different scores paint different pictures. A conversion only really tells if time is up or almost up.
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@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Chris said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Look not bagging the dude just mentioning if he had kicked that 7 points maybe the result would have been different.
Well you can't add missed penalties because the game entirely changes if he kicks the penalty (halfway restart etc).
How about all the times the Chiefs came within 20 cm of the line, or a bounce of the ball across the line?
The Reds rode their luck all game. Their last try was after being under immense pressure then a delightful 50-22 kick -- which easily could have bounced into the deadball and had a scrum back past halfway. Their first was after PGS let a ball out of scrum with no half. Good on them, they played excellently, but they basically relied on getting close to the line and barging over.
What impressed me about the Chiefs was that they stuck to their guns. They didn't panic and start throwing Hail Marys. They didn't get anxious and start dropping the ball. They didn't try to win it individually.
What bothered me, really, was the scrums. Those scrum penalties were immensely costly.
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@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Crusaders to lose.
If that's true ( I have my doubts because I don't think the Saders are that good this year) it's a pretty sad statement about player depth in NZ and Australia.
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@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Crusaders to lose.
If that's true ( I have my doubts because I don't think the Saders are that good this year) it's a pretty sad statement about player depth in NZ and Australia.
Home advantage, best coach in the known universe TM, all your players should be ABs, etc, etc
Would be a massive choke to lose to the Blues.
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@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Crazy-Horse said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Crusaders to lose.
If that's true ( I have my doubts because I don't think the Saders are that good this year) it's a pretty sad statement about player depth in NZ and Australia.
Home advantage, best coach in the known universe TM, all your players should be ABs, etc, etc
Would be a massive choke to lose to the Blues.
I don't buy into that bullshit and I suspect you don't either.
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@cgrant said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Fern favorite ALB was pretty anonymous
@ARHS said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Kudos too to ALB for a lot of valuable touches under pressure
Opinions ...
P.S. on my viewing though ALB was very good.
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@Bones said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Chris said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Look not bagging the dude just mentioning if he had kicked that 7 points maybe the result would have been different.
Well you can't add missed penalties because the game entirely changes if he kicks the penalty (halfway restart etc).
Even conversions IMO. Different scores paint different pictures. A conversion only really tells if time is up or almost up.
Was about to booboo myself. Agree entirely
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@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Chiefs to lose.
Fixed.
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@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Chiefs to lose.
Fixed.
I think the Chiefs are probably in the Blues 22 role, strong round robin to lose to the Crusaders in the final.
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@Bones said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
One thing - anyone else think the chiefs had changed their game plan completely from what had been successful throughout the round robin?
If so, ballsy and almost backfired...
Do you mean the kicking in the first half? They were winning the kicking battles but it all went a bit pear shaped anyway.
TBH, now that the win is in the bank, I think if Narawa had not pushed the Reds player and scored that try the Chiefs would have run over the Reds pretty easily, so we can thank him for an intense enjoyable game of rugby I guess.
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@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Chiefs to lose.
Fixed.
I think the Chiefs are probably in the Blues 22 role, strong round robin to lose to the Crusaders in the final.
Chiefs are much stronger than 22 Blues in my opinion. A better coach, a better tight five, better halves.
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@Nepia said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Bones said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
One thing - anyone else think the chiefs had changed their game plan completely from what had been successful throughout the round robin?
If so, ballsy and almost backfired...
Do you mean the kicking in the first half? They were winning the kicking battles but it all went a bit pear shaped anyway.
TBH, now that the win is in the bank, I think if Narawa had not pushed the Reds player and scored that try the Chiefs would have run over the Reds pretty easily, so we can thank him for an intense enjoyable game of rugby I guess.
Narawa doesn't push him, he doesn't score.
It just felt like they were super conservative and their patterns were different, a lot less sweeping movement.
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@Nepia said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Bones said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
Narawa doesn't push him, he doesn't score.
Obviously, we can't know, but on my multiple viewings of that it looked like the defender would have missed it anyway.
Nah, on my viewings it looked like he stepped in, caught it and then ran back breaking ten tackles on his way to a game turning try.
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@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@KiwiMurph said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Kirwan said in QF: Chiefs v Reds:
@Donsteppa this comp is the Chiefs to lose.
Fixed.
I think the Chiefs are probably in the Blues 22 role, strong round robin to lose to the Crusaders in the final.
Chiefs are much stronger than 22 Blues in my opinion. A better coach, a better tight five, better halves.
Let's not forget that the 22 Chiefs really should have won the semi-final in Christchurch. Add an in-form DMac and I think they would have.
