All Blacks 2023
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@Tim There are a lot of players off-contract at the end of this season/year, at least where we haven't had any news about them re-signing.
Telea
Stevenson
Hodgman
Laulala
Nanai-Seturo
Tupaea
Ennor
Goodhue
Grace
Perenarato name a few (fringe) All Blacks.
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With the state club finances are in much of the NH the lure of 'bagging' a SH player is becoming less and less enticing unless they have
a) no international ties / aspirations
b) haven't been capped and would be eligible for the host country on lineage or residencyTake the recent international retirement of Wales' Justin Tipuric as an example
He's far more valuable and cost effective to the Ospreys now than when he was RWC bound
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@MiketheSnow Point a) won't affect Kiwis (unless of PI heritage) as they aren't eligible for the ABs anymore as soon as they go overseas.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
@MiketheSnow Point a) won't affect Kiwis (unless of PI heritage) as they aren't eligible for the ABs anymore as soon as they go overseas.
But there's going to be more of a necessity for homegrown going forward
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@MiketheSnow hasnt that been an issue (for NH Clubs) for a few years, yet we havent seen a slow down of salaries or players leaving?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@MiketheSnow hasnt that been an issue (for NH Clubs) for a few years, yet we havent seen a slow down of salaries or players leaving?
Chickens are coming home to roost big time
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@MiketheSnow obviously something to like as a kiwi fan, but probably not ideal outside of that then
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Not a bad side really.
Surprise omissions in Stephen Donald’s All Blacks starting XV for RWC
With this year’s Rugby World Cup just around the corner, former Test flyhalf Stephen Donald has picked his All Blacks’ starting side to take on the best of the best in France.
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Stevenson? Will he fit into the 15? Or on the bench as wing/15?
I'm not sure Jordan has been around long enough this season to guarantee a starting position and I am a fan. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
Stevenson? Will he fit into the 15? Or on the bench as wing/15?
I'm not sure Jordan has been around long enough this season to guarantee a starting position and I am a fan.Foster.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2023:
Stevenson? Will he fit into the 15? Or on the bench as wing/15?
I'm not sure Jordan has been around long enough this season to guarantee a starting position and I am a fan.Foster.
But I think Foster might pick a chiefs wing
Stevenson on All Black radar but Foster name drops another potential Chiefs' bolter
All Blacks head coach Ian Foster has revealed that the selectors are 'looking hard' at outside back options across Super Rugby Pacific.
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Think both Narawa & Nareki would be on Foster's radar.
Been more impressed with Leicester F than Jordan lately - and I'm still not convinced by the former at Test level. Telea & Stevenson are shoe-ins with Jordan highly likely as/if he improves with more game time. Probably leaves Caleb Clarke, Narawa & Nareki battling for two spots
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@nostrildamus I won't be in the least bit surprised if any bolters are ones that either haven't been mentioned or not rated as highly as a more obvious pick in the same position.
The Ratima's, Poihipi's, McLeod's, ENS's.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
Think both Narawa & Nareki would be on Foster's radar.
Been more impressed with Leicester F than Jordan lately - and I'm still not convinced by the former at Test level. Telea & Stevenson are shoe-ins with Jordan highly likely as/if he improves with more game time. Probably leaves Caleb Clarke, Narawa & Nareki battling for two spots
I can't see Clarke being anything other than a sure thing (for foster). Same for Jordan.
Narawa ahead of Nareki, he's had a fantastic season and just feels like he's more made for test rugby, but if Nareki comes back strong next year he'll be hard to ignore.
There's no way Stevenson is a shoe in (again, foster). Especially if Jordie is still seen as a fullback.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
There's no way Stevenson is a shoe in (again, foster). Especially if Jordie is still seen as a fullback.
Yeah, the team will be stacked with fullbacks (Barretts, DMac, Jordan, probably Havilli). I really hope take someone with a great kicking game though. Stevenson is playing great. Sullivan good option too.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
Think both Narawa & Nareki would be on Foster's radar.
Been more impressed with Leicester F than Jordan lately - and I'm still not convinced by the former at Test level. Telea & Stevenson are shoe-ins with Jordan highly likely as/if he improves with more game time. Probably leaves Caleb Clarke, Narawa & Nareki battling for two spots
I can't see Clarke being anything other than a sure thing (for foster). Same for Jordan.
Narawa ahead of Nareki, he's had a fantastic season and just feels like he's more made for test rugby, but if Nareki comes back strong next year he'll be hard to ignore.
There's no way Stevenson is a shoe in (again, foster). Especially if Jordie is still seen as a fullback.
Dunno. Think we'll def. see Stevenson and another 11/14/15 pre-RWC. Foster has a habit of bringing new players in but being over-cautious in playing them so maybe not in the RWC squad.
Guess a lot will depend on what he does with Havili and midfield. Does he pick Goodhue and use Havili as a back-up 15?
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Form is temporary, class is permanent
Anyone not considering Jordan needs their head read
