Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion
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"Here they now have, in McMillan, a man they believe is destined for bigger things, and whose record actually outshines those who are instead in the conversation."
"Beginning his six years at Bay of Plenty, he inherited a side which had finished dead last in the championship division. He took them to semifinals in his first two seasons, a final the next, as well as the championship title and then a premiership semifinal."
"Similarly, he picked up a Chiefs team which had endured their miserable winless Super Rugby Aotearoa run under Warren Gatland in 2020, and after immediately steering them somewhere close to the Kiwi title, he was then, tellingly, seen as the best option to retain the job even when Gatland was meant to take back over."
"From there, he has gone on to build an exemplary record with the Chiefs. Going into this weekend, with 27 victories from 37 games, at a 73% success rate, he not only has the best win-loss record of any Chiefs coach in history, but one that is also superior to MacDonald at the Blues (44 from 68 at 65%) and Holland at the Hurricanes (29 from 50 at 58%)."
Exactly my sentiment for the last two years, been banging this drum pretty loudly - media have clearly been reading the fern!
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
*Here they now have, in McMillan, a man they believe is destined for bigger things, and whose record actually outshines those who are instead in the conversation.
Beginning his six years at Bay of Plenty, he inherited a side which had finished dead last in the championship division. He took them to semifinals in his first two seasons, a final the next, as well as the championship title and then a premiership semifinal.
Similarly, he picked up a Chiefs team which had endured their miserable winless Super Rugby Aotearoa run under Warren Gatland in 2020, and after immediately steering them somewhere close to the Kiwi title, he was then, tellingly, seen as the best option to retain the job even when Gatland was meant to take back over.
From there, he has gone on to build an exemplary record with the Chiefs. Going into this weekend, with 27 victories from 37 games, at a 73% success rate, he not only has the best win-loss record of any Chiefs coach in history, but one that is also superior to MacDonald at the Blues (44 from 68 at 65%) and Holland at the Hurricanes (29 from 50 at 58%).
Exactly my sentiment for the last two years, been banging his drum pretty loudly - media have clearly been reading the fern!
Razor is looking for assistants, Holland at least appears to be a better assistant than a HC. Not really sure about Leon, but he's a mate so.....
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@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had at least 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards, except NZ U20's of course.
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
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@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?
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@nostrildamus said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?
I wasn't making the comment as a negative. Just that he's early into his HC career at the Chiefs, it's not a bad thing to let him continue to develop himself and the team for a while
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@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@nostrildamus said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?
I wasn't making the comment as a negative. Just that he's early into his HC career at the Chiefs, it's not a bad thing to let him continue to develop himself and the team for a while
fair enough. I'd personally say the same thing about Leon.
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@nostrildamus said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@nostrildamus said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?
I wasn't making the comment as a negative. Just that he's early into his HC career at the Chiefs, it's not a bad thing to let him continue to develop himself and the team for a while
fair enough. I'd personally say the same thing about Leon.
If he wanted McMillan that would be fine. But he wants Leon so I guess thats fine. He has to be comfy with his team
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@canefan True, it's as simple as he's had nothing to do with McMillan, coaches want to be surrounded by people they are familiar with, Razor has a strong relationship with Holland, MacDonald, Hansen and has worked with all of them previously.
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan True, it's as simple as he's had nothing to do with McMillan, coaches want to be surrounded by people they are familiar with, Razor has a strong relationship with Holland, MacDonald, Hansen and has worked with all of them previously.
And Ryan is already there, ready and waiting
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@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@nostrildamus said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?
I wasn't making the comment as a negative. Just that he's early into his HC career at the Chiefs, it's not a bad thing to let him continue to develop himself and the team for a while
When is he signed until? Surely time for a trip over seas for international role before pushing further
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@Machpants said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@nostrildamus said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.
Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.
McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet
By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?
I wasn't making the comment as a negative. Just that he's early into his HC career at the Chiefs, it's not a bad thing to let him continue to develop himself and the team for a while
When is he signed until? Surely time for a trip over seas for international role before pushing further
2026
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Schmidt to coach the Blues next year? Cory Brown, Jason O'Halloran or Mark Ozich to the Hurricanes please.
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@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Jason O'Halloran
I've long hoped he'd come back and coach in NZ again.
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@taniwharugby said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
@kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Jason O'Halloran
I've long hoped he'd come back and coach in NZ again.
What he did for the Turbos was incredible. Suntory's current attack coach, Eddie Jones rates him highly.
His coaching CV is impressive:
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Wouldn’t mind Jason getting the gig and having the likes of Tamati as an assistant with the eye of him eventually taking over when Jason decides to move on.
I really really hope we don’t continue with Gibbes, he’s done nothing to deserve that position.
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@Canes4life said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Wouldn’t mind Jason getting the gig and having the likes of Tamati as an assistant with the eye of him eventually taking over when Jason decides to move on.
I really really hope we don’t continue with Gibbes, he’s done nothing to deserve that position.
Isn't Chris Boyd around? Maybe Rennie prefers Cuba St to Queen St?
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@Canes4life said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:
Wouldn’t mind Jason getting the gig and having the likes of Tamati as an assistant with the eye of him eventually taking over when Jason decides to move on.
I really really hope we don’t continue with Gibbes, he’s done nothing to deserve that position.
You'd be pretty pleased to see the back of Holland I'm guessing? His record against the top teams (Brumbies, Chiefs, Crusaders, Blues) across the last 3 seasons is terrible, with just 1 win (against the Blues) in round one last year. Considering how talented their squads have been recently it's very disappointing.
