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    @canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris Vern Cotter's going to the Crusaders right? he's been suspiciously quiet since leaving his Fiji job...

    I have heard his name mentioned he maybe in the mix but I believe another person is the favoured option.

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    HaHa not even close Mate.More likely to be back at the Canes if Holland goes.

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    @Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris Vern Cotter's going to the Crusaders right? he's been suspiciously quiet since leaving his Fiji job...

    I have heard his name mentioned he maybe in the mix but I believe another person is the favoured option.

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    HaHa not even close Mate.More likely to be back at the Canes if Holland goes.

    No way

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    @Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris Vern Cotter's going to the Crusaders right? he's been suspiciously quiet since leaving his Fiji job...

    I have heard his name mentioned he maybe in the mix but I believe another person is the favoured option.

    No one is coming back to NZ for that job are they?

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    @antipodean said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Chris Vern Cotter's going to the Crusaders right? he's been suspiciously quiet since leaving his Fiji job...

    I have heard his name mentioned he maybe in the mix but I believe another person is the favoured option.

    No one is coming back to NZ for that job are they?

    I think so

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    Planet Rugby reporting on the 'Rennie to the Blues' rumour -

    Rennie set for Super Rugby return: Former Wallabies head coach Dave Rennie could return to coaching with the Blues. The Super Rugby winner with the Chiefs was rumoured to be off to Japan next year but could instead return to Super Rugby with the Blues. It is expected that current Blues head coach Leon MacDonald will vacate his role at the end of the season and will either land the Scotland head coach job or join Scott Robertson’s All Blacks coaching team. The New Zealand Herald reports that the Blues have moved in to make Rennie an offer to be their new boss from 2024.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy Win win would be Rennie to Blues and Rangi to assistant coach with Razor. Big loss if he goes to Scotland.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy PR read the Fern….

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/300854080/exall-black-nick-evans-wont-be-englands-attack-coach-at-rugby-world-cup

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    A few people are suggesting on facebook that Brad Thorn should go to the Saders.

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    @SBW1 said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    A few people are suggesting on facebook that Brad Thorn should go to the Saders.

    I think they just taking the proverbial with that suggestion though SBW, surely.

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    @SBW1 said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    A few people are suggesting on facebook that Brad Thorn should go to the Saders.

    Considering what he's done for the Reds, I'd be onboard with that.

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    @Dan54 No one is suggesting a head coach role, more likely an assistant role. The guy was a Crusaders legend.

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    @SBW1 said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @Dan54 No one is suggesting a head coach role, more likely an assistant role. The guy was a Crusaders legend.

    All the assistants are locked in Perrin,Marshall,Elllison. Maybe a spot there when Scott Hansen goes with Razor to the AB's which was an analytical role,
    I am not sure that is a Brad Thorn strength.

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    I wonder if Rennie is a done deal for the blues. He would be a good man for the canes. Another option is Boyd maybe as a short term pick with Ellison having time to see what he can do as a head coach for Wellington. I just hope they get it right this time. No more punts like Hammett. Or promoting assistants who lack the qualities to be a winning head coach. Holland was one but Gibbes would be another.

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    @Winger They’ll Promote Gibbs if they can’t get Rennie I reckon.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/131783608/why-clayton-mcmillan-shapes-as-new-zealand-rugbys-big-coaching-riddle

    "Here they now have, in McMillan, a man they believe is destined for bigger things, and whose record actually outshines those who are instead in the conversation."

    "Beginning his six years at Bay of Plenty, he inherited a side which had finished dead last in the championship division. He took them to semifinals in his first two seasons, a final the next, as well as the championship title and then a premiership semifinal."

    "Similarly, he picked up a Chiefs team which had endured their miserable winless Super Rugby Aotearoa run under Warren Gatland in 2020, and after immediately steering them somewhere close to the Kiwi title, he was then, tellingly, seen as the best option to retain the job even when Gatland was meant to take back over."

    "From there, he has gone on to build an exemplary record with the Chiefs. Going into this weekend, with 27 victories from 37 games, at a 73% success rate, he not only has the best win-loss record of any Chiefs coach in history, but one that is also superior to MacDonald at the Blues (44 from 68 at 65%) and Holland at the Hurricanes (29 from 50 at 58%)."

    Exactly my sentiment for the last two years, been banging this drum pretty loudly - media have clearly been reading the fern!

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    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/131783608/why-clayton-mcmillan-shapes-as-new-zealand-rugbys-big-coaching-riddle

    *Here they now have, in McMillan, a man they believe is destined for bigger things, and whose record actually outshines those who are instead in the conversation.

    Beginning his six years at Bay of Plenty, he inherited a side which had finished dead last in the championship division. He took them to semifinals in his first two seasons, a final the next, as well as the championship title and then a premiership semifinal.

    Similarly, he picked up a Chiefs team which had endured their miserable winless Super Rugby Aotearoa run under Warren Gatland in 2020, and after immediately steering them somewhere close to the Kiwi title, he was then, tellingly, seen as the best option to retain the job even when Gatland was meant to take back over.

    From there, he has gone on to build an exemplary record with the Chiefs. Going into this weekend, with 27 victories from 37 games, at a 73% success rate, he not only has the best win-loss record of any Chiefs coach in history, but one that is also superior to MacDonald at the Blues (44 from 68 at 65%) and Holland at the Hurricanes (29 from 50 at 58%).

    Exactly my sentiment for the last two years, been banging his drum pretty loudly - media have clearly been reading the fern!

    Razor is looking for assistants, Holland at least appears to be a better assistant than a HC. Not really sure about Leon, but he's a mate so.....

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    @canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.

    Razor has always had at least 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards, except NZ U20's of course.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.

    Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.

    McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet

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    @canefan said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @kiwi_expat said in Next Blues, Crusaders, Hurricanes coach discussion:

    @canefan Razor won't take McMillan because he's a forwards orientated coach, Holland & MacDonald are backs specialists.

    Razor has always had 2 back coaches and Ryan to coach the forwards.

    McMillan is better building his resume at the Chiefs for now. He hasn't even won a Super title yet

    By that criterion, never have Foster, Holland or MacDonald?

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