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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Other Cricket:
Has anyone been following the Yorkshire Cricket/Azeem Rafiq Racism case? Just read some reports on the inquiry into Michael Vaughn and it looks as though the whole thing has become a mixture of the Keystone Kops, blackmail, vested interests, corporate lying, a fit-up or incompetence on a mind-boggling scale.
E.g. the ECB relied on two players' word & didn't bother to contact the other 6 players involved when Vaughn was said to have made racist comments, nor the Umpires or the TV cameraman who was there at the time - and didn't speak to Vaughn before bringing charges. Complete fiasco.
Not really following it but isn’t it a bit of a storm in a teacup ? On the extremely low end of “racist abuse” ?
Feel free to correct me if I’m sounding racist and bigoted.
The outcomes of the various hearings and governing body decisions seem to far outweigh the original actions even if allegations are true.
Absolutely a storm in a teacup. Legal moves and arse covering decisions making a mockery of any form of “justice “
What’s that old quote “This isn’t a court of justice son, this is a court of law” -
@Crucial said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Other Cricket:
Has anyone been following the Yorkshire Cricket/Azeem Rafiq Racism case? Just read some reports on the inquiry into Michael Vaughn and it looks as though the whole thing has become a mixture of the Keystone Kops, blackmail, vested interests, corporate lying, a fit-up or incompetence on a mind-boggling scale.
E.g. the ECB relied on two players' word & didn't bother to contact the other 6 players involved when Vaughn was said to have made racist comments, nor the Umpires or the TV cameraman who was there at the time - and didn't speak to Vaughn before bringing charges. Complete fiasco.
Not really following it but isn’t it a bit of a storm in a teacup ? On the extremely low end of “racist abuse” ?
Feel free to correct me if I’m sounding racist and bigoted.
The outcomes of the various hearings and governing body decisions seem to far outweigh the original actions even if allegations are true.
Absolutely a storm in a teacup. Legal moves and arse covering decisions making a mockery of any form of “justice “
What’s that old quote “This isn’t a court of justice son, this is a court of law”So from the cheap seat I’m in it sounds like he’s using the race card and being offended by something that’s probably not that offensive ?
I could be wrong but Vaughan always struck me as a gentleman of the game.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Crucial said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Other Cricket:
Has anyone been following the Yorkshire Cricket/Azeem Rafiq Racism case? Just read some reports on the inquiry into Michael Vaughn and it looks as though the whole thing has become a mixture of the Keystone Kops, blackmail, vested interests, corporate lying, a fit-up or incompetence on a mind-boggling scale.
E.g. the ECB relied on two players' word & didn't bother to contact the other 6 players involved when Vaughn was said to have made racist comments, nor the Umpires or the TV cameraman who was there at the time - and didn't speak to Vaughn before bringing charges. Complete fiasco.
Not really following it but isn’t it a bit of a storm in a teacup ? On the extremely low end of “racist abuse” ?
Feel free to correct me if I’m sounding racist and bigoted.
The outcomes of the various hearings and governing body decisions seem to far outweigh the original actions even if allegations are true.
Absolutely a storm in a teacup. Legal moves and arse covering decisions making a mockery of any form of “justice “
What’s that old quote “This isn’t a court of justice son, this is a court of law”So from the cheap seat I’m in it sounds like he’s using the race card and being offended by something that’s probably not that offensive ?
I could be wrong but Vaughan always struck me as a gentleman of the game.
It seems the real scandal is how the Storm in a Teacup has been handled and how the ECB seems to have tried to fit Vaughn up on the basis of some very dodgy "evidence" and didn't check even the basic facts. They are not coming out of this well and there are rumours that Plod is looking at things like conspiracy.
As Vaughn said, it reflect really badly on Cricket.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Crucial said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Other Cricket:
Has anyone been following the Yorkshire Cricket/Azeem Rafiq Racism case? Just read some reports on the inquiry into Michael Vaughn and it looks as though the whole thing has become a mixture of the Keystone Kops, blackmail, vested interests, corporate lying, a fit-up or incompetence on a mind-boggling scale.
E.g. the ECB relied on two players' word & didn't bother to contact the other 6 players involved when Vaughn was said to have made racist comments, nor the Umpires or the TV cameraman who was there at the time - and didn't speak to Vaughn before bringing charges. Complete fiasco.
Not really following it but isn’t it a bit of a storm in a teacup ? On the extremely low end of “racist abuse” ?
Feel free to correct me if I’m sounding racist and bigoted.
The outcomes of the various hearings and governing body decisions seem to far outweigh the original actions even if allegations are true.
Absolutely a storm in a teacup. Legal moves and arse covering decisions making a mockery of any form of “justice “
What’s that old quote “This isn’t a court of justice son, this is a court of law”So from the cheap seat I’m in it sounds like he’s using the race card and being offended by something that’s probably not that offensive ?
I could be wrong but Vaughan always struck me as a gentleman of the game.
It seems the real scandal is how the Storm in a Teacup has been handled and how the ECB seems to have tried to fit Vaughn up on the basis of some very dodgy "evidence" and didn't check even the basic facts. They are not coming out of this well and there are rumours that Plod is looking at things like conspiracy.
As Vaughn said, it reflect really badly on Cricket.
After many years of observing officialdom my go to is now incompetence before conspiracy.
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@Victor-Meldrew There have been reports of some dodgy twitter posts from Vaughan from around the same period that are in the same vein as the alleged abuse e.g. Not many English people live in London.. I need to learn a new language..
MV has apologised for "disgusting tweets" but denies he said (something similar TBH) to Rashid.
ECB are running scared and Vaughan's revenue streams are drying up rapidly
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An important note. TSF's favourite left arm fast bowler made a lot of kids very happy at the Mount and Papamoa cricket clubs junior prizegivings over the weekend.
We don't seem to have our photos up yet, but Papamoa has some good pics and posts: https://www.facebook.com/papamoacricketclub
#LovesWags
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Central stags win the plunket shield in pretty remarkable circumstances. Was a must win match that had lost a day to rain and got helped twice, firstly by Auckland declaring while still 100 runs behind in their first innings and then collapsing to 103 all out in 30 overs in their second innings.
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@Cyclops said in Other Cricket:
Central stags win the plunket shield in pretty remarkable circumstances. Was a must win match that had lost a day to rain and got helped twice, firstly by Auckland declaring while still 100 runs behind in their first innings and then collapsing to 103 all out in 30 overs in their second innings.
Good of Auckland to try and get a result with rain.
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NZ A came from behind to beat Australia A in their first 'test' today
Australia A -
370/6d & 218/2dNew Zealand A
224 & 365/7
https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/australia-a-in-new-zealand-2023-1365973/new-zealand-a-vs-australia-a-1st-unofficial-test-1365976/full-scorecard -
@MN5 and not that it should be overly relevant but a nod to Baz who has the highest strike rate on that list
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@bayimports said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 and not that it should be overly relevant but a nod to Baz who has the highest strike rate on that list
Three kiwi keeper/batsmen there. Nice. ( although had he given up the gloves completely by 2013 ? In any case lovely to see )
Also not a single West Indian. Sir Garfield, Viv, Richie, Gordon, Dessy, Brian etc will be crying into their rums at the sight of that.
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These stats to me really indicate what a legend KW is.
From memory he had a bit of a typical kiwi batsman start, ie a couple of big scores to indicate he might have “promise” but not much more than that. The kind of guy who might be as good as Nathan Astle or Craig McMillan one day.
Up there with Ross Taylor ? Pfffft, no way.
I just took the last ten years off his career on cricinfo…..on this day ten years ago he had played 22 tests for an average of 31.86 with three hundreds. Real standard Black Caps specialist batsman return there. His improvement is mind blowing.
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Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell named as two of Wisden's Five Cricketers of Year
