Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel you definitely can make the argument, see the comments about Rey (force user with no training, fighting kylo with no training), but the critique of lots of other seems to boil down to them just being women who kick arse and that not being believable or people just not liking seeing it...like the only think he mentions as for why he doesn;t like them...is theyre women
and re it being over done, we've had god know how many years of unbelievably male centric cinema....im sure we can survive if they swing it a little too far the other way
I find comments like this really strange. Women and girls have had plenty of films, TV, entertainment etc that cater exclusively to them. Ever heard of chick flicks? You think Sex and the City or umpteen other series or films were going after the male demographic? I had a "step daughter" for 3 years and, if anything, she had too much choice. So I'm not really sure why any swing was required, and definitely not too far in one direction. There's plenty of room for everyone. Existing properties don't need to be drastically changed for that.
you know not all women are the same aye, they don't all like chick flicks, lot probably really enjoy seeing women kick arse on screen, have you heard of the Bechdel Test? it shocking how many movies cant even manage to have two women talk to each other about something other than a man, the sequels actually pass the test but hang heavily on Rey and Leia talking to each other, I mean all three trilogies have two male leads and one female
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel you definitely can make the argument, see the comments about Rey (force user with no training, fighting kylo with no training), but the critique of lots of other seems to boil down to them just being women who kick arse and that not being believable or people just not liking seeing it...like the only think he mentions as for why he doesn;t like them...is theyre women
and re it being over done, we've had god know how many years of unbelievably male centric cinema....im sure we can survive if they swing it a little too far the other way
I find comments like this really strange. Women and girls have had plenty of films, TV, entertainment etc that cater exclusively to them. Ever heard of chick flicks? You think Sex and the City or umpteen other series or films were going after the male demographic? I had a "step daughter" for 3 years and, if anything, she had too much choice. So I'm not really sure why any swing was required, and definitely not too far in one direction. There's plenty of room for everyone. Existing properties don't need to be drastically changed for that.
you know not all women are the same aye, they don't all like chick flicks, lot probably really enjoy seeing women kick arse on screen, have you heard of the Bechdel Test? it shocking how many movies cant even manage to have two women talk to each other about something other than a man, the sequels actually pass the test but hang heavily on Rey and Leia talking to each other, I mean all three trilogies have two male leads and one female
Well in this case it’s hard to get a word in with Finn running round screaming for Rey every five minutes.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel you definitely can make the argument, see the comments about Rey (force user with no training, fighting kylo with no training), but the critique of lots of other seems to boil down to them just being women who kick arse and that not being believable or people just not liking seeing it...like the only think he mentions as for why he doesn;t like them...is theyre women
and re it being over done, we've had god know how many years of unbelievably male centric cinema....im sure we can survive if they swing it a little too far the other way
I find comments like this really strange. Women and girls have had plenty of films, TV, entertainment etc that cater exclusively to them. Ever heard of chick flicks? You think Sex and the City or umpteen other series or films were going after the male demographic? I had a "step daughter" for 3 years and, if anything, she had too much choice. So I'm not really sure why any swing was required, and definitely not too far in one direction. There's plenty of room for everyone. Existing properties don't need to be drastically changed for that.
you know not all women are the same aye, they don't all like chick flicks, lot probably really enjoy seeing women kick arse on screen, have you heard of the Bechdel Test? it shocking how many movies cant even manage to have two women talk to each other about something other than a man, the sequels actually pass the test but hang heavily on Rey and Leia talking to each other, I mean all three trilogies have two male leads and one female
I think I'll just let this one go to the keeper. Let's focus on possible better plots rather than female representation
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kiwiwomble said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
but they do give good, imo, explanations (unlike rey), cara is litterally built like a brick shit house, Bo has been born and raised to be the leader of a military culture, fennic is an assassin, shes not generally swinging a club around, she snips with a gun most often and dones some acrobatic shit...there is still far more male character that kick arse over all in Star wars to each their own so is it just that we see them all in the same series?...too any women?
Fair enough. I did re edit my original post.
To further add to your post Ashoka is an extremely powerful Jedi Knight.
Maybe the girls are just bearing the brunt of my criticism of the new series. Han, Luke, Leia etc struggled to put away troopers much more than these guys do.
Han got decked by a Scout Trooper and Luke and Leia really struggled to catch the others. They only escaped the Death Star cos Moff Tarkin ordered it.
In the latest movies, series etc though they’re a joke. Any less than 20 of them is basically target practice.
Their combat instructors need to be fired for this inept training
To be fair though, I’m not sure Stormtrooper training deals with Jake the Muss.
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Oh goodie, the Star Wars thread has just looped back round to the same old shit, back to the future.
I will contribute my usual then: the prequels are shit stacked upon shit, stacked upon shit, stacked upon shit. I consider the final JJ Abrams movie spiritually a prequel too.
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@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Oh goodie, the Star Wars thread has just looped back round to the same old shit, back to the future.
I will contribute my usual then: the prequels are shit stacked upon shit, stacked upon shit, stacked upon shit. I consider the final JJ Abrams movie spiritually a prequel too.
Still more entertaining and more variety than any thread about Foster though.
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Oh goodie, the Star Wars thread has just looped back round to the same old shit, back to the future.
I will contribute my usual then: the prequels are shit stacked upon shit, stacked upon shit, stacked upon shit. I consider the final JJ Abrams movie spiritually a prequel too.
Still more entertaining and more variety than any thread about Foster though.
Jabba is fat
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@Bovidae said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
The latest episode will please those who want plenty of action.
Yeah I liked it, it also has a bit of an old school / retro feel to it, which comes off pretty well IMO.
Bo Katan's Mandolorian suit is pretty well shaped too...
I did think though, it is somewhat amusing that I expect they pay Pedro a fair old chunk of cash, yet you never even see his face, its just his voice.
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@taniwharugby said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Bovidae said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
The latest episode will please those who want plenty of action.
Yeah I liked it, it also has a bit of an old school / retro feel to it, which comes off pretty well IMO.
Bo Katan's Mandolorian suit is pretty well shaped too...
I did think though, it is somewhat amusing that I expect they pay Pedro a fair old chunk of cash, yet you never even see his face, its just his voice.
Now he knows how Mike Myers’s and Eddie Murphy feel when they did Shrek
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mystery-thriller set in the High Republic era of the galaxy’s history. Amandla Stenberg and Lee Jung-jae are starring as the show’s leads, a Padawan learner and her Jedi Master, who set out to investigate several crimes that might be tied to the Sith.that sounds more like what ive wanted to see, a quick google confirms the High Republic ended 80BBY so shouldn't have much crossover with any of the other tv/movie except maybe a young palpatine?
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All caught up.
Good fun stuff, I did like the cameo at the bar of that big alien from rebels amongst others. Fun fact. That was what Chewie was going to look like in initial drawings. So much other awesome stuff too. Grogu is adorable without being irritating which is quite an achievement. Some nice appearances from some pretty famous faces too.
I hope the Armourer takes her helmet ( and other items of clothing off ) before too long….
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Back to the topic from last week, this probably explains a few things:
It really isn't hard. Good guys vs bad guys, cool characters, lots of action, positive and uplifting message, the end!
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Fuck I miss living in China, and buying dodgy DVDs at one of the several dodgy stores within a 5 minute walk.
New pleasures everytime.- Occasionally - fucking weird subtitles, as per above
- More often - super fucking weird covers. Sometimes just dropping in any review found online, including the scathing ones.
- Very occasionally - for some reason - over-dubbing - back into English, of an original English dialogue - therefore, with TWO weird translations having had happened. (A-la "English As She Is Spoke")
- Finally realising about 10 minutes into The Chronicles Of Riddick - that it was a CAM - and that the confusingly inappropriate laughter during first action scene - was actually the theatre audience
- The tacking on of credits from any other movie - onto the CAM DVDs... watching a Bond, and then seeing Cuba Gooding Jr as the first name in the credit sequence. (Something called Snow Dogs was popular as a post-credits sequence.)
