RWC veterans to be dumped.
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You said:
He played a lot at 7 last year for the Crusaders and if everyone was fit I think that’s where he’d be in this years SR too.
I think you're wrong. Blackadder is the first choice 6 for the Crusaders. Christie the first choice 7. Grace the first choice 8.
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Back on topic, at wing is Reece's position a little under threat, as perhaps Clarke (although he is too young I guess to be a veteran at 22 he has already played 25 games!)
Another question mark is Taylor but at 31 and given the pups around I guess he has a few more years left.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
Could see the following in trouble:
S Frizell (if Blackadder is the starting 6 Frizell may be at risk).Blackadder and MMT?
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@mariner4life said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@Duluth if we had a big mean fluffybunny with a bit of leg speed to play 6 we could have a loose forward trio for the ages
Unfortunately these types are rare. Have to hope one emerges in the next WC cycle.
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@BartMan said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@Crucial said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
Akira may not fall into the category of veteran but I think he is very much at risk
Yes he's got to be gone. Not even a flat track bully anymore, just vanishes when the hard work is needed!
Reluctantly find myself agreeing.
Just really wanted him to be The Man.
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
In addition to the above;
Could see the following in trouble:
S Frizell (if Blackadder is the starting 6 Frizell
mayshould be at risk).Goodhue
Tuipulotu
FIFY
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@Stargazer said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
RTS will probably not make the RWC squad. Should never have been capped.
Can't say I agree.
Squaddie.
2nd best 12
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@booboo said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@Stargazer said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
RTS will probably not make the RWC squad. Should never have been capped.
Can't say I agree.
Squaddie.
2nd best 12
is he second best 12 now? Might deserve a thread.
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@booboo said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@Stargazer said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
RTS will probably not make the RWC squad. Should never have been capped.
Can't say I agree.
Squaddie.
2nd best 12
Behind J. Barrett, ALB, Havili and - when fit again - probably also behind Tupaea.
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It's certainly not a 2007, nor 2015 type squad. We don't have the depth, nor the amount of fit, experienced, awesome players. Unfortunately some journeymen are going to fill spots.
You could write a number of names that have a track record of disappointing results but in the absence of compelling alternatives, will still participate.
As much as I love Coles, his body is calling time and we finally have some quality youngsters coming through.
Lock depth is a enormous drop off. Pat T. has never stood up as we'd all hoped. Others are a year or two off. We have to hope that Whitelock, Retallick and Scott get through unscathed.
Sam Cane is a warrior who should be another three inches taller and playing blindside.
Scrumhalf's we've seen the last of TJP. With an ounce of luck at least one of Christie and Webber will be replaced.
No one will replace our first two choice five eighths because they won't get the opportunity at SR level.
Centres are a case of "don't get injured". Goodhue's body isn't fit for Test rugby anymore it seems. Anyone other reasonable prospect appears to be fragile. There's our first choice pairing and then an abyss.
Wings are another area short of competition.
Fullback is open to anyone fit. At this stage that's Stevenson.
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@Stargazer said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@booboo said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@Stargazer said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
RTS will probably not make the RWC squad. Should never have been capped.
Can't say I agree.
Squaddie.
2nd best 12
Behind J. Barrett, ALB,
Haviliand - when fit again - probably also behindTupaea.I'll agree to 3rd
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Going back to @BartMan 's original post...
... do we add Andy Haden to the '86 guys who missed '87?
Can't recall his last test ... was it '85 or '86?
Given Zinny Brooke and Bernie McCahill debuted, who did they come in for?
Mike Brewer missed out didn't he? Was he injured?
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@Stargazer said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
@Duluth Blackadder's main position is not 7. He only played there for the Crusaders because Christie was injured and because they had Matera at 6 (when Grace returned from injury). He's mainly a 6, who can easily slot in at 7 and also plays at 8.
The thing is that if everyone was fit last year Razor would’ve had rocks in his head if he didn’t play the below in the big games:
6-Matera
7-Blackadder
8-GraceChristie is a standout NPC player that is a good SR player. To me he’s not starter material when we have those other players.
But between Gardiner, Grace, Blackadder and Christie, we always have someone if not two, in the hospital ward.
Back on topic: Laulala, Ofa, Moody and Coles in trouble I reckon.
Cane will be there but he may not be a starter come RWC.
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@booboo said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
Going back to @BartMan 's original post...
... do we add Andy Haden to the '86 guys who missed '87?
Can't recall his last test ... was it '85 or '86?
Given Zinny Brooke and Bernie McCahill debuted, who did they come in for?
Mike Brewer missed out didn't he? Was he injured?
Zinny potentially in for the retired Jock Hobbs? Not strictly like for like though. You could say Michael Jones was more of the Hobbs replacement. Yes, Brewer missed out due to injury, much like 1991. Zinny probably in for him.
Arthur Stone played the last two tests in 1986 so arguably McCahill in for him?
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@KiwiMurph said in RWC veterans to be dumped.:
S Frizell (if Blackadder is the starting 6 Frizell may be at risk).
I'd say with the form of Barrett, Retallick, Blackadder and Sotutu - Firzzel is a tough push in a limited squad.
But....Foster.
Personally, I'm not convinced Cane couldn't do the same job as Frizzel.
