6N Ireland v England
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That should be the match. England need to find a 9, their current option is all sorts of average.
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@Billy-Tell said in 6N Ireland v England:
That should be the match. England need to find a 9, their current option is all sorts of average.
They also need to find a 10, 12 & 13. Been awful.
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@Billy-Tell said in 6N Ireland v England:
That should be the match. England need to find a 9, their current option is all sorts of average.
Their back up nine is dangerous
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@Victor-Meldrew said in 6N Ireland v England:
@Billy-Tell said in 6N Ireland v England:
That should be the match. England need to find a 9, their current option is all sorts of average.
They also need to find a 10, 12 & 13. Been awful.
They need to play
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@Mackerzzzz
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YesThere's still time... fuck these Irish fluffybunnies.
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Fuck, that was a tough watch. Nerves getting to the Irish players on the occasion. First GS at home and all that.
Fair play to England for making that very difficult, even when down to 14 (I thought it was a yellow myself, Barnes would have probably just awarded a penalty!).
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Really not convinced on that RC.
Infield argument was no mitigation but to me the starting premise was all wrong.
Was there head contact? Yes
Was there foul play? Very debatable. The player certainly looked to decide to pull away from a collision. Looked very accidental to me. Did he make the right choice in trying to pull out? No. But that’s not foul play. That’s a split second decision to try and avoid danger that went the other way.
Add to that the Ireland player charged head first into contact while out of control while regathering and it was all just a rugby accident to my eyes. -
@Billy-Tell said in 6N Ireland v England:
@Bones said in 6N Ireland v England:
@Billy-Tell said in 6N Ireland v England:
That is not foul play! Guy braced himself. Fuck that’s crap.
He ran into a guy's head, elbow and shoulder first. Hard to come up with a more clear red card.
If he'd just carried on with a legal tackle then no problems
I dunno. No doubt you played rugby too but I reckon he just braced himself. I’ll have to look again. I wish they’d do super rugby and give him 10. Then the tmo can calmly review. But the tmo today is the worst in the business.
I thought George Ayoub had retired!
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@Crucial said in 6N Ireland v England:
Really not convinced on that RC.
Infield argument was no mitigation but to me the starting premise was all wrong.
Was there head contact? Yes
Was there foul play? Very debatable. The player certainly looked to decide to pull away from a collision. Looked very accidental to me. Did he make the right choice in trying to pull out? No. But that’s not foul play. That’s a split second decision to try and avoid danger that went the other way.
Add to that the Ireland player charged head first into contact while out of control while regathering and it was all just a rugby accident to my eyes.The problem is - "Foul Play" doesn't actually mean "foul play" anymore.
Just like "Deliberate Knock-On" doesn't actually/literally define what the offence actually is.
"just a rugby accident" - which involves contact to the head - is Foul Play. And will be penalised.
The sooner the players realise that - the less cards there will be.
The sooner the pundits realise that - the sooner we can stop hearing the infantile whines of "The game is an absolute joke." -
Having said that - it was an unfortunate one.
He had fuck all time to make a decision, and made the wrong one.
BUT - I guess the onus should then become... don't put yourself in that position in the first place.
As to the asinine "What else could he have done?" bleating? It's already been answered several times, but best option was probably to continue with a legal tackle.- If he was able to do that, and truly didn't have the time to do anything else - then it wouldn't be ruled as a late tackle, as he'd "already committed"
- If he wasn't able to do that, then he was never in a position to do anything other than an act of "Foul Play" -and therefore... a card was always in the pipeline anyway.
The more I see these things though, the more I like what we're doing in Super Rugby... the Yellow which can be upgraded to Red after considered unpressured reflection.
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Oh dear, and he is, presumably, paid to comment on the game!
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/sonny-bill-williams-makes-shock-predictions-for-six-nations-finale/ar-AA18MN4A?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a3a0970317054bb4bef563afab774e10&ei=16 -
@Higgins said in 6N Ireland v England:
Oh dear, and he is, presumably, paid to comment on the game!
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/sonny-bill-williams-makes-shock-predictions-for-six-nations-finale/ar-AA18MN4A?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a3a0970317054bb4bef563afab774e10&ei=16I’d be talking shit too if Mark Hunt had knocked me out
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I'm normally stentorian in spurning the adjudications of the match officials, but I can't see how that's not a RC. A pity, because with some better individual decision making England were well in that match.
Well done to Ireland on the GS.
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Once this Ireland have finished partying tonight, they can have a nice lazy Sunday and bask in the glow of a grand slam.
And come Monday morning they can call their travel agent and ask for a return flight from Paris to Dublin on October 15th because they are 100% going out in the quarters.
