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    Tickner would look right at home in the Caps mid 90's bowling lineup. Promoted well beyond his level.

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    0/67 off 10 on day one at a home test match. Dire.

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    @Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    0/67 off 10 on day one at a home test match. Dire.

    Surely the bigger issue is the captain is to scared to actually bowl one of his (other) senior seamers. After winning the toss and bowling ....

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    @Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    0/67 off 10 on day one at a home test match. Dire.

    on a green top!

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    the way they are batting, SL are looking good for a win. If they do that, a second game with entry to the WTC on the line would be superb to watch.

    If we lose 2-0, is that SL confrimed? Or could India sneak in even then?

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    The Wagner is finished and the captain no longer trusts him klaxon alarm:
    (because, anything less subtle is to subtle for Steady ...

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    @Rapido pace is down, he's lost effectiveness unfortunately.

    Loves Wags, but he's close to finishing

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    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @Rapido pace is down, he's lost effectiveness unfortunately.

    Loves Wags, but he's close to finishing

    Mark Richardson just summed up Wagner well about how he plays when he’s fired up, he gets better. That’s all good and well when we are on a 5th day and trying to get up for an improbable. Problem is that test cricket is a grind also and we need line and length. That doesn’t need a ‘fired up’ bowler, just someone using the conditions and consistency.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @Rapido pace is down, he's lost effectiveness unfortunately.

    Loves Wags, but he's close to finishing

    Mark Richardson just summed up Wagner well about how he plays when he’s fired up, he gets better. That’s all good and well when we are on a 5th day and trying to get up for an improbable. Problem is that test cricket is a grind also and we need line and length. That doesn’t need a ‘fired up’ bowler, just someone using the conditions and consistency.

    I have vivid memories of him coming in with Sri Lanka cruising a few years ago, and absolutely changing the game with aggression and well directed short deliveries. SL did not handle it at all well.

    Sadly, we aren't seeing that hostile stuff now, it's more me giving the fingers to someone from the comfort of my car.

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    @Rapido said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    0/67 off 10 on day one at a home test match. Dire.

    Surely the bigger issue is the captain is to scared to actually bowl one of his (other) senior seamers. After winning the toss and bowling ....

    All of the above. The Loves Wags till death do us part crew were militant after the Basin about the Bay Oval criticism of his economy rate etc, so I avoided that one for now 🙂

    Papamoa's finest is finally back into the attack now, and hopefully holds off the march of time for at least the rest of this series. Dragging the run rate back to 0/35 off 5 now.

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    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    the way they are batting, SL are looking good for a win. If they do that, a second game with entry to the WTC on the line would be superb to watch.

    If we lose 2-0, is that SL confrimed? Or could India sneak in even then?

    India get in if they win the 4th Aus-India test.

    If India beat Australia in the fourth Test they will officially secure their final's spot, but a draw or a loss combined with two Sri Lanka wins over New Zealand will see Sri Lanka leap India and make the WTC final. 
    
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    @ACT-Crusader said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @Rapido pace is down, he's lost effectiveness unfortunately.

    Loves Wags, but he's close to finishing

    Mark Richardson just summed up Wagner well about how he plays when he’s fired up, he gets better. That’s all good and well when we are on a 5th day and trying to get up for an improbable. Problem is that test cricket is a grind also and we need line and length. That doesn’t need a ‘fired up’ bowler, just someone using the conditions and consistency.

    I thought Wisden also highlighted his English series performance quite well. Was a proverbial Outhouse to the Penthouse scenario.

    In the first Test, Neil Wagner finished with the second-worst economy rate in an innings in the history of Test cricket (min. 10 overs).

    In the second, he bowled New Zealand to one of the greatest Test victories of all time.

    Guts.!

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    Source: Wisden

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    Meanwhile a bloke called Glenn Phillips showed concentration, skill, and control (not words I associate with Henry Nicholls) to score 147 off 244 balls to deny the Cantabs (along with a bit of rain) in the Plunket Shield. Henry Shipley and Ish Sodhi bowled well for Canterbury.

    One kid to watch is 19 year-old Muhammad Abbas. His dad played 1st class stuff in Pakistan before coming to NZ with a 1 year-old son where the dad played a bit for Auckland and Wellington. Anyway, the boy dominated the NZ U19 champs last month and scored a Plunket Shield 100 for Wellington the other day.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @Rapido pace is down, he's lost effectiveness unfortunately.

    Loves Wags, but he's close to finishing

    Mark Richardson just summed up Wagner well about how he plays when he’s fired up, he gets better. That’s all good and well when we are on a 5th day and trying to get up for an improbable. Problem is that test cricket is a grind also and we need line and length. That doesn’t need a ‘fired up’ bowler, just someone using the conditions and consistency.

    His job is to make the batsmen uncomfortable on a dead track with an old ball. He used to be able to make things happen by sheer act of will and by dipping into a perpetual font of rage

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    @canefan said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @Rapido pace is down, he's lost effectiveness unfortunately.

    Loves Wags, but he's close to finishing

    Mark Richardson just summed up Wagner well about how he plays when he’s fired up, he gets better. That’s all good and well when we are on a 5th day and trying to get up for an improbable. Problem is that test cricket is a grind also and we need line and length. That doesn’t need a ‘fired up’ bowler, just someone using the conditions and consistency.

    His job is to make the batsmen uncomfortable on a dead track with an old ball. He used to be able to make things happen by sheer act of will and by dipping into a perpetual font of rage

    I wish he'd retired on top as a hero after the Basin.

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    @four-more-years said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    Meanwhile a bloke called Glenn Phillips showed concentration, skill, and control (not words I associate with Henry Nicholls) to score 147 off 244 balls to deny the Cantabs (along with a bit of rain) in the Plunket Shield. Henry Shipley and Ish Sodhi bowled well for Canterbury.

    One kid to watch is 19 year-old Muhammad Abbas. His dad played 1st class stuff in Pakistan before coming to NZ with a 1 year-old son where the dad played a bit for Auckland and Wellingto ma'am no
    n. Anyway, the boy dominated the NZ U19 champs last month and scored a Plunket Shield 100 for Wellington the other day.

    I don't think Phillips is four though and Mitchell is also not a four. So that brings us back to Nicholls vs Young and Young hasn't taken his chances to put more pressure on Nicholls's position.

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    @LABCAT said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    @four-more-years said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    Meanwhile a bloke called Glenn Phillips showed concentration, skill, and control (not words I associate with Henry Nicholls) to score 147 off 244 balls to deny the Cantabs (along with a bit of rain) in the Plunket Shield. Henry Shipley and Ish Sodhi bowled well for Canterbury.

    One kid to watch is 19 year-old Muhammad Abbas. His dad played 1st class stuff in Pakistan before coming to NZ with a 1 year-old son where the dad played a bit for Auckland and Wellingto ma'am no
    n. Anyway, the boy dominated the NZ U19 champs last month and scored a Plunket Shield 100 for Wellington the other day.

    I don't think Phillips is four though and Mitchell is also not a four. So that brings us back to Nicholls vs Young and Young hasn't taken his chances to put more pressure on Nicholls's position.

    The bar feels like it's set pretty low

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    Phillips has been batting 4 for Otago and usually batted 3 or 4 for Auckland.

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    @four-more-years said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    Phillips has been batting 4 for Otago and usually batted 3 or 4 for Auckland.

    Santner bats at 5 for ND, if he ever gets to play test cricket again (unlikely) he'll be batting at 7 or 8, so that gives you some idea about the difficulty of batting in domestic cricket.

    To me Phillips looks like he would be a great test 5 or 6, maybe even an awesome one.

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    Interesting to see Andre Adams right up this First Class wickets list. Chat's average is a good reminder that Hadlee didn't take lots of wickets just 'because no-one at the other end' at the top level.

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