Reds v Chiefs
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NZ Rugby Quizzes" data-cid="595293" data-time="1468010917"><p>The Aussies don't have the depth for 5 teams. Never did.<br> <br>Result is scorelines like the two we saw last night. Expecting the Rebels to ship a similar amount of points tonight</p></blockquote><br>I also think they should have four teams. I think having four successful teams is better for their rugby than 2 successful teams and 3 average teams. Just scrap the Force and give their<br>5-6 super rugby standard players to other teams.<br><br>The only difficulty is that it is hard to justify the expansion teams while cracking down on Aussie.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Milk" data-cid="595343" data-time="1468038653">
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<p>Jeez, Sam Cane and Nathan Harris are big units these days.</p>
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<p>Lot of people questioning Harris's inclusion but he is hard nosed and good around the paddock and his AB selection was justified. How about him starting at hooker and Coles coming on early in the second half with his speed?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="broughie" data-cid="595344" data-time="1468038843"><p>Lot of people questioning Harris's inclusion but he is hard nosed and good around the paddock and his AB selection was justified. How about him starting at hooker and Coles coming on early in the second half with his speed?</p></blockquote>
Haha, not a chance, Coles is our starting hooker every day of the week unless being rested or injured. Harris looks solid but he's miles behind Coles at the moment. Great to have him and Taylor showing promise though, as for a while there we were looking pretty thin on depth at hooker with Kev retiring. -
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<p>Haha, not a chance, Coles is our starting hooker every day of the week unless being rested or injured. Harris looks solid but he's miles behind Coles at the moment. Great to have him and Taylor showing promise though, as for a while there we were looking pretty thin on depth at hooker with Kev retiring.</p>
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<p>Don't know about miles behind. He brings a little more grit than Coles. Just thinking outside of the box kind of like the Cane/Savea thinking. Anyway I think we have good coverage at Hooker with all 3 of them.</p> -
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<p>Don't know about miles behind. He brings a little more grit than Coles. Just thinking outside of the box kind of like the Cane/Savea thinking. Anyway I think we have good coverage at Hooker with all 3 of them.</p>
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<p>if we had a creevy, or a bismarck (of a couple of years ago) then for sure. but we don't right now.</p> -
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<p>Don't know about miles behind. <strong>He brings a little more grit than Coles.</strong> Just thinking outside of the box kind of like the Cane/Savea thinking. Anyway I think we have good coverage at Hooker with all 3 of them.</p>
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<p>Say what?</p>
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<p>He actually brings a little more standing on the wing than Coles and that's saying something.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="595569" data-time="1468068949"><p>
Say what?<br><strong><br>
He actually brings a little more standing on the wing than Coles and that's saying something.</strong><br><br>
In saying that he has developed nicely.</p></blockquote>
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You realise this is part of a team pattern. They don't just stand out on the wing for the sake it because they reckon they might get some glory? They're doing what they're told. Coles in the same team would be doing the same thing. -
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<p>Lot of people questioning Harris's inclusion but he is hard nosed and good around the paddock and his AB selection was justified. How about him starting at hooker and Coles coming on early in the second half with his speed?</p>
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<p>slightly off topic but related, Its interesting because I had thought of Coles starting and how other players have been typecast as finishers and not starters these days</p>
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<p>Haha, not a chance, Coles is our starting hooker every day of the week unless being rested or injured. Harris looks solid but he's miles behind Coles at the moment. Great to have him and Taylor showing promise though, as for a while there we were looking pretty thin on depth at hooker with Kev retiring.</p>
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<p>It's usual thing, I remember a few years back (pre Whitlock) we were concerned we lacked quality locks, then there was the worry about 10s, then hooker became the worrying position, and the after a season or so we relax a little and say well we got a few now! Wing is shaping up the same, a lot of us were a little nervous of our wing stocks, but suspect/hoping that prblem is solving itself too.</p> -
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<p><strong>You realise this is part of a team pattern</strong>. They don't just stand out on the wing for the sake it because they reckon they might get some glory? They're doing what they're told. Coles in the same team would be doing the same thing.</p>
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<p>Yes, and making fun of players who seagull on the wing (whether in the pattern or not) is a time honoured tradition (especially on the Fern).</p>
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<p>Didn't expect you to the one to dust of the armour and get the trusty steed from the stables. ;)</p> -
<p>I read somewhere last night that this is the first time the Chiefs have brought up 50 points in a Super rugby game, that cant be right can it?</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="crusadersfan" data-cid="595657" data-time="1468111700"><p>I read somewhere last night that this is the first time the Chiefs have brought up 50 points in a Super rugby game, that cant be right can it?</p></blockquote>
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<p>See never trust what you read in the media,</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="595593" data-time="1468098009">
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<p>slightly off topic but related, Its interesting because I had thought of Coles starting and how other players have been typecast as finishers and not starters these days</p>
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<p>, and wondered if he had come along second when we had a seasoned starter , would he be typecast as an impact type that shouldnt start because of his flair and x factor ? </p>
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<p>possibly.</p> -
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<p>See never trust what you read in the media,</p>
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<p>I think the 45 pts is the largest winning margin by the Chiefs.</p>
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<p>Yes, beats the 42-point win over the Cheetahs in 2013 (45-3).</p>
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<p>Thought the Chiefs starting front row had a good game in scrums. Replacements also fine, but when Slipper replaced Reds noticeably weaker. And stood up reasonably well against Crusaders, even with Yamashita starting. Good to see as for me that has probably been their only real weakness.</p>
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<p>Thought the Chiefs starting front row had a good game in scrums. Replacements also fine, but when Slipper replaced Reds noticeably weaker. And stood up reasonably well against Crusaders, even with Yamashita starting. Good to see as for me that has probably been their only real weakness.</p>
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<p>Harris has a huge positive effect on that front row.</p> -
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The Aussies don't have the depth for 5 teams. Never did.<br><br>
Result is scorelines like the two we saw last night. Expecting the Rebels to ship a similar amount of points tonight</p></blockquote>
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I've been banging this drum for years but according to a certain poster I'm just an ignorant Kiwi who should shut tfa. Apparently the Australian conference is just awesome.
