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    My prediction for the NZ sides

    Crusaders to top the round robin and win it overall. I just hope they at least don't win every game and give the other teams hope at times. But they're just too strong with a great head coach and too much depth. Another boring outcome if I'm right
    Chiefs and Blues to fight it out for the 2nd NZ team with Chiefs just coming out on top.
    Hurricanes to finish 4th. I always hope for more but realistically the team has some great players but not enough and don't think they've got a hope of finishing higher than the other three. I hope I'm wrong though and in the new training Centre they develop players to go all the way
    Highlanders 5th.
    MP 6th. They will do well to match last year.

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    How good

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    @Canes4life

    Might be one less after tonight. Bit worried about Grace with that shoulder.

    However, the Chiefs have a few back-up 6s as well.

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    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

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    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

    And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
    Very good for game I thought.

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    @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

    And one of takeaways I got from the speeding up of lineouts in particular is I think we find them being simplfied a bit, no huddles, and I thought more the Hookers haven't got a long to set themselves? Samisoni missed a couple of throws by a fair bit where I got impression he was still getting breath.
    Very good for game I thought.

    Yes, very hard on the hookers, those already with wobbly throwing will be badly exposed as they don't have time to compose themselves and have a breather, I feel sorry for them but makes lineouts more interesting for sure.

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    Also why did we see the reluctance to go for a scrum close to the line, instead they opted for a tap, have not seen that for some time except in the dying minutes. Not sure if that is a lack of trust in the scrum or just a different tactic.

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    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

    @chimoaus said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I have to say I did not expect the rule changes to make such a big difference to the tempo, it goes to show how teams really did slow down the game on purpose with all the huddles, fake injuries, props doing makeup etc.

    I love this new product, its just much better to watch and these changes can only benefit the fit teams and you can't help but think the AB's would love these rules to come into the test arena. I hope the other refs can watch BOK as that should be the template for sure.

    Agree, things have noticeably sped up. So these new rules are not yet approved for tests? Hopefully we are not shooting ourselves in the foot for the World Cup with our fatties having to be not so fat to keep up in Super Rugby and then struggling against the big boppers in test footy.

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    Odds on Reds coaching staff to see out the season?

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    These new laws, or mostly interpretations, ... looking awesome.
    But...

    • Which coach is going to be the first to figure out the first loophole / twisting?
      And... Are the same interpretations going to be in place in France?
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    @Kruse These new law application guidelines come from SANZAAR, so the NH will be against it. 🙄

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    @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

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    @Tim said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Stargazer Have there been some similar interpretations during the 6N? Ball in play time was very high in the Ireland/France game.

    Nope they're just playing that way, possession based games.

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    @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Machpants they are playing with the rules to reduce time wasting though arent they?

    Only the kick clocks, water boys, not to the same extent as SR. But last year's matches had on average 5 or 6 minutes more in play than RC, sadly it's the SH who are the turgid teams now

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    @Machpants and the irony is, it was still the NH teams and SA slowing shit down in the internationals last year.

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    @taniwharugby said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Machpants and the irony is, it was still the NH teams and SA slowing shit down in the internationals last year.

    But not when they play each other, bizarre

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    I found the Oz games far less 'sped up' that the NZ ones.
    We had refs calling out 30 seconds for a scrum set only after the packs had fucked around getting assembled.

    I like the interpretation of 'ball out' at breakdowns though. Saw a number of steals from the back if the halfback was mucking around.

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    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I found the Oz games far less 'sped up' that the NZ ones.
    We had refs calling out 30 seconds for a scrum set only after the packs had fucked around getting assembled.

    I like the interpretation of 'ball out' at breakdowns though. Saw a number of steals from the back if the halfback was mucking around.

    Angus Gardner stopping the canes reds game for several minutes so a Reds player could change his boots on the field was ridiculous

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