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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Winger said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life
    Priñsep was his starter when fit so guess he rates him so will mention him. But hope someone else steps up at 6.

    Is delany injured

    I expect to see priñsep starting in the first game along with Blackwell. It won't change until Holland leaves. And even with a new coach if Gibbes remains it still might not. Unless it's prinsep last year

    Both Delany and Howden are better than Prinsep. Delany thoroughly outplayed Prinsep in the NPC final, plus I would also have Flanders shift to 6 before selecting Prinsep.

    You're right though, Prinsep seems like Holland's teachers pet. Hopefully they both move on at season's end.

    I was so happy when Prinsep got subbed on for Cant in the NPC final. Of course, he ends up spilling the ball.

    My favourite player when he's on the other team.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

    Feb 14, 2023

    Jordie Barrett on move to 12 at Canes: 'I'm trying to evolve game'

    Jordie Barrett on move to 12 at Canes: 'I'm trying to evolve game'

    Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.

    "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

    The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

    Yawn.
    His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

    Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

    It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

    Yep so did a certain Christian Cullen. He was a centre through school, club and when he first played rep rugby in the mighty Nua. Not saying anything right or wrong, just having a smile about it.

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    @mikey07 There's a separate match thread for this game

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    @Winger Sweet thanks didn’t see it.

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    Cool story on Caleb Delany, (similar to Devan Flanders) I'm hoping he has a big year in black and yellow.

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/meet-the-rangatahi-hurricanes-lock-who-may-have-never-have-made-it-without-a-life-changing-opportunity/ar-AA17ydb6?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=d377ccec15d7424b97c99fbba93d82be

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    An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

    Stuff
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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

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    The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

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    @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

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    The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

    Who's injured. 🙂

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Machpants said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    An update on Ruben Love and Brett Cameron

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    The canes have a ready made one cap ABs ten in the squad!

    Who's injured. 🙂

    No he's not, jordie 😉

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    @Machpants Jordie at 10 and Higgins at
    12 might be a good option later in the game. Esp if Morgan has an off game

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    @Winger Was going to suggest the same thing Winger, can see that happening.

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    Club Rugby article about Roigard:

    clubrugby  /  Feb 21, 2023

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Hurricanes halfback and former speedway driver Cam Roigard flies in for his try in the Hurricanes’ pre-season win over the Crusaders in Levin last Friday. By Steven White Cam Roigard is is pa…

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    @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Crucial said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @kiwi_expat said in Hurricanes 2023:

    Feb 14, 2023

    Jordie Barrett on move to 12 at Canes: 'I'm trying to evolve game'

    Jordie Barrett on move to 12 at Canes: 'I'm trying to evolve game'

    Permanent Super Rugby shift will help Barrett's chances of staying in his preferred second-five position with All Blacks in World Cup year.

    "fozzie indicated he enjoyed me playing there so I suppose the rest is up to me and put myself into that position every week."

    The same coach who prior to the forced switch wasn't convinced by the proposition of Jordie at 12.

    Yawn.
    His Canes coach wasn't exactly pushing the option hard either and when Foster made those comments Jordie was still finding his feet.

    Yep funny isn't it, remember how coaches have been slated for moving 15s to centre over the years? All the ones who 'knew' it would never work are probably the same ones who 'knew' 12 was JBs position!

    It's a little different with Jordie though because he actually started out as predominantly a 12 for school, NZ under 20s and Canterbury in that first year, and then made the shift to fullback. It's not like he's been a 15 all his career and suddenly wants to move to the midfield. Scott Roberston even said back at the beginning of Jordie's career that he wanted to sign him as a 12 for the Crusaders.

    I think the same argument applies to many other players. Positions at school or club level are often not where you are best employed at higher levels.
    I just get tired of people trying to use this as evidence of Foster being incompetent. If you look at it without bias the story was that Foster openly questioned why he would want to move his best back from the previous year to a different position.

    Didn't Foster send his "best back" to wing or did I imagine that?

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    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

    Club Rugby article about Roigard:

    clubrugby  /  Feb 21, 2023

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Hurricanes halfback and former speedway driver Cam Roigard flies in for his try in the Hurricanes’ pre-season win over the Crusaders in Levin last Friday. By Steven White Cam Roigard is is pa…

    Massive future for Roigard.

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    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

    Club Rugby article about Roigard:

    clubrugby  /  Feb 21, 2023

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Hurricanes halfback and former speedway driver Cam Roigard flies in for his try in the Hurricanes’ pre-season win over the Crusaders in Levin last Friday. By Steven White Cam Roigard is is pa…

    Massive future for Roigard.

    Amen Canes, I thought he made a huge difference when he came on in Levin last week, and meant to ask if you had thought similar?

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    @Dan54 said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Canes4life said in Hurricanes 2023:

    @Stargazer said in Hurricanes 2023:

    Club Rugby article about Roigard:

    clubrugby  /  Feb 21, 2023

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Roigard revving up for new Hurricanes season

    Hurricanes halfback and former speedway driver Cam Roigard flies in for his try in the Hurricanes’ pre-season win over the Crusaders in Levin last Friday. By Steven White Cam Roigard is is pa…

    Massive future for Roigard.

    Amen Canes, I thought he made a huge difference when he came on in Levin last week, and meant to ask if you had thought similar?

    Yeah in my review he was the best player on the park so no surprises people have him as a bolter for the ABs.

    He is tactically smart, his kicking and passing (both ways) are top notch and he loves to snipe and take on the line which I love to see.

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    @Canes4life Whoops sorry mate ,for some reason I missed your review (I miss forget going back sometimes), but it sounds like you and I are on same page with him being best player on park, I have been raving about him all week!
    Yep Canes just went back and read your summary, and bugger me we got a problem, both went to same game and saw it pretty well the same!!

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    Winger
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    If Holland goes who is his likely replacement?

    Plumtree is likely on the outer now. Boyd might not want to come back. Gibbes might be an option . It's likely too. Early for Ellison

    Anyone got access to the NZ herald article

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    The next All Blacks coaching appointment looms large over the Hurricanes, too, with Jason Holland firmly in Robertson’s test plans.

    Holland first joined the Hurricanes as an assistant in 2015 and is about to start his fourth year at the helm.

    The Hurricanes aren’t as advanced as the Blues and Crusaders in their succession planning yet.

    They are instead working towards an early April timeframe when they expect the All Blacks appointment to bring certainty about Holland’s future beyond this year.

    If Holland moves on, the Hurricanes could attempt to lure Palmerston North-based Rennie who led Wellington to the NPC title in 2000.

    Former Hurricanes coaches John Plumtree is sitting idle after being cast aside by the All Blacks last year while Chris Boyd is in a mentoring role at the Highlanders.

    Promoting respected forwards coach Chris Gibbes, who guided Waikato and Wellington before assisting Holland with the Hurricanes, is another option.

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